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Re: Dear game balance team~~~ALL PLASE COME IN~~~~~~~
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2014, 02:20:54 pm »
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Horse is not monkey, nor is it chicken!!!
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Re: Dear game balance team~~~ALL PLASE COME IN~~~~~~~
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2014, 03:56:29 pm »
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We really need a chinese player in the balance team.

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Re: Dear game balance team~~~ALL PLASE COME IN~~~~~~~
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2014, 04:29:59 pm »
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We really need Shanghai Brave in the balance team.

Fixed.

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Re: Dear game balance team~~~ALL PLASE COME IN~~~~~~~
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2014, 06:09:11 pm »
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Dear game balance team:
How many valuable men in your team?Can You really make a balanced Balance?...
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Re: Dear game balance team~~~ALL PLASE COME IN~~~~~~~
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2014, 06:24:05 pm »
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3rd, all the horse speed should increased to the speed of  +3 heirloomed courser

I like where this is going...

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...and decrease their manuver same as the donkey,also slighty increase the charge damage, so that will be a scence all the raiders form a line and charge together like real historical battle.

wait, no.
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Re: Dear game balance team~~~ALL PLASE COME IN~~~~~~~
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2014, 06:54:14 pm »
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Re: Dear game balance team~~~ALL PLASE COME IN~~~~~~~
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2014, 07:02:50 pm »
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On a more serious and politically correct level, the Chinese meta and maps are completely different and completely unaccounted for in balance decisions. That explains why CN players are probably throwing a fit right now. By the way archers calm your tits.

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Re: Dear game balance team~~~ALL PLASE COME IN~~~~~~~
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2014, 09:05:54 pm »
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Chinese meta is rather different from both EU and NA which makes their perception of balance very different, even more so than the already noticable differences between EU and NA. To be honest I'd dare to explain their different perception of balance even from a very different mentality towards life itself. EU and NA players largely come from very individualistic western cultures, whereas in Chinese culture the well-being of the group is much more prominent. From what I have seen from the Chinese servers and from what I read in the OP, I can sense a greater love for being a part of a bigger machine, making the clan or team win.

Balance is not a simple nerf , but extruding the advantage of every unit,so everyone can play well in there advantage, the way is balanced
Shanghai is right that this is not the approach that has been taken by the balance team. The balance team tries to make individuals more able to have a chance against everyone, so you can do well in many situations by smart and skillfull play. What Shanghai wants is rock-paper-scissor balance, where the team versus team is properly balanced, but where an individual player can get hard-countered and properly fucked by his counters.

so that will be a scence all the raiders form a line and charge together like real historical battle
This for example. I think this wouldn't be very fun or interesting, because the only thing you can do is hope that you are lucky enough to not be the one that rides into a spear. It makes your ability or decisions largely irrelevant. It's like linebattles in Napoleonic Wars, utterly boring and random from an individual perspective.

Apart from me preferring the individualistic approach, I do not understand how Shanghai envisions a more team based balance to work. Are all the Chinese players always on voice communication doing tactics with eachother during play on public servers? In EU and NA the teams as a whole cannot effectively communicate so a team based balance is very bad, because players cannot coordinate cav charges, shieldwalls, or shooting horse-archers. Everybody does what he likes best, therefore individually based balance fits much better.

Maybe there are some opposed words, like this is a game , not history.You are just thinking of your own class, making your class strong , nerf others.Yes,this is a game ,that everyone every class reached their historical and deserved strength.THIS IS BALANCE,not based on you are scaring of rangers or raiders or something others, and nerf those class to unplayable
Also, I do indeed think that this is a game and not history. Balancing to historical strengths is terrible because the game is very different from real battle in countless of very important ways, one of them being that this game should be fun for everyone.
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Re: Dear game balance team~~~ALL PLASE COME IN~~~~~~~
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2014, 09:13:33 pm »
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seeing the powerful horse archer in the mighty mongolian army?
If your powerful mongolian horse archer were to be implemented in this game, it would go downhill pretty fast...

Accept that this is a multiplayer game where everyone has to have fun, horse archers don't provide that and everyone playing it is a dick for it.

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Re: Dear game balance team~~~ALL PLASE COME IN~~~~~~~
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2014, 09:35:41 pm »
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Please make game speed faster for more fun.

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Re: Dear game balance team~~~ALL PLASE COME IN~~~~~~~
« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2014, 06:27:20 am »
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We really need a chinese player in the balance team.
take a chinese archer in balance team (or any other archer before do this kind of unlogic patch )

coz atm (str) archers are more accurate, more powerfull, have better missile and hp ... than before

they just slower but who care when u just have to camp an hill !!!

good job balance team ! that's worst !

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Balance is not a simple nerf , but extruding the advantage of every unit,so everyone can play well in there advantage, the way is balanced

we try to explain that to balance team since 4 years ... but they know only nerf ...
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Re: Dear game balance team~~~ALL PLASE COME IN~~~~~~~
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2014, 09:16:45 am »
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Please make game speed faster for more fun.
Shut up, I'm not korean gamer . I already have problem to focus at these fucking agiwhoresgayswordsmacrofeitersandco.  :lol:
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Re: Dear game balance team~~~ALL PLASE COME IN~~~~~~~
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2014, 11:46:42 am »
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I will say the balance is good. Mongolians were good at fight with thousands of them. Yes, if you can act like them every shot on head, you will still be powerful. Before the balance change, a heavy armed cavs were so scared to the archers. (my experience) Light cavalry had no chances to survive (one or two shot will kill the horse). Shanghai just explained his points. For example, the suggestion on horses, many other Chinese players disagree with that. For me, the balance team could have a test on that.
For the archers, I would say there is no longer having a bulid like "pure archers". 10 draw is no longer as powerful as before. In my opinion, that is a good news.

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Re: Dear game balance team~~~ALL PLASE COME IN~~~~~~~
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2014, 12:15:47 pm »
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I will say the balance is good. Mongolians were good at fight with thousands of them. Yes, if you can act like them every shot on head, you will still be powerful. Before the balance change, a heavy armed cavs were so scared to the archers. (my experience) Light cavalry had no chances to survive (one or two shot will kill the horse). Shanghai just explained his points. For example, the suggestion on horses, many other Chinese players disagree with that. For me, the balance team could have a test on that.
For the archers, I would say there is no longer having a bulid like "pure archers". 10 draw is no longer as powerful as before. In my opinion, that is a good news.

Nice post, good to know CHN has some reasonable players. :wink:
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Re: Dear game balance team~~~ALL PLASE COME IN~~~~~~~
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2014, 05:13:53 am »
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