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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2014, 07:51:27 pm »
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My relatively small clan already has at least 5 players that are better than the average byz or nord guy ever could get.

That's what the clan league and the 5v5 tournament is for.
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2014, 08:44:12 pm »
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2014, 09:28:52 pm »
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"Good players are always on the bottom of a scoreboard because they don't like to show off and ruin anyone's fun."
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2014, 10:01:29 pm »
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2014, 10:24:59 pm »
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2014, 10:25:51 pm »
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"Edgar Allan Poe is always right. And that's a rule."
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More properly would be:
"Edgar Allan Poe is always right. And that's a physical law."

PS: or am I mistaken and Einstein wasn't a physician?
UPD: nevermind this post is a joke, I sure know what a physician is. It's the one who deals with psychos, right? 

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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2014, 11:10:10 pm »
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Macropus, I would have written "Albert Einstein", not "albert einstein" if I meant Albert Einstein though.


hint: forum changes certain "words"
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2014, 11:51:05 pm »
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More properly would be:
"Edgar Allan Poe is always right. And that's a physical law."

PS: or am I mistaken and Einstein wasn't a physician?
UPD: nevermind this post is a joke, I sure know what a physician is. It's the one who deals with psychos, right?

ohhh you fucking russians

im torn between thinking you're joking and not knowing what physician means, in which case i'd tell you that physician is just another word for doctor

or facepalming because you're managing to troll us all so hard :D
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2014, 01:36:07 am »
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My relatively small clan already has at least 5 players that are better than the average byz or nord guy ever could get.
 
I couln't care less about banner balance, as in my eyes it never really destroyed the fun of randomers/lone players/small clans, only people who are bad players/got dropped to often as childs are constantly complaining about banner balance.

If a nord-byz-uber stack stomps EU1, I simply join Siege with a handful of my clanmates and roll a multi there, or I go and leech erm play on DTV, or I turn my PC off and do something else.

'it's only game, why (everybody) has to be mad'  :mrgreen:

I wasnt making a e-peen post, theres no need to brag. And how is being forced to switch server a passable thing? You dont see any flaws in that needing to be fixed? And you say you are better than most of us, but you escape our wrath as soon as we build up an army?


I am fully for a more fair balance, either by making banners have less prio and switching over more stackers OR letting us stay on our team but making us have a harder time by switching over randomers so teams end up being maybe 20vs30. Teamplaying is awesome, but i have noticed it feeling very unfair when we win rounds so easily and i think the best solution would be to let us keep our stacks but having to fight harder for multi.
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2014, 01:52:11 am »
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imo banner balance should be removed and class balance should be added. I realise that balancing on class is probably a lot more complicated, but if it just went off which class the person has the most wpf in, I think it could work.
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2014, 02:04:21 am »
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imo banner balance should be removed and class balance should be added. I realise that balancing on class is probably a lot more complicated, but if it just went off which class the person has the most wpf in, I think it could work.

why not just combine the two? the whole thing works on attributing a score to players, so why not just attribute a higher score to a player the more of his banners are on his team, and the more of his class are on the team?

don't see any reason why this shouldn't work
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2014, 02:05:50 am »
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Banner balance should stay, there's no point playing this game "alone" :[)

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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2014, 02:16:02 am »
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You should just avoid big clan merges like that. If you want to play together, why not just get into the same ts channel? Or joining the banner clan for one evening (like the Fallen/HRE sometimes did on EU2), but this seems over the top.. and the funny part, you're all now discussing about the banner balance. Is it bad or good, should it be changed or not?
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2014, 02:19:08 am »
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You should just avoid big clan merges like that. If you want to play together, why not just get into the same ts channel? Or joining the banner clan for one evening (like the Fallen/HRE sometimes did on EU2), but this seems over the top.. and the funny part, you're all now discussing about the banner balance. Is it bad or good, should it be changed or not?

we want to play together, but we feel guilty about steamrolling EU1 when we do have a huge banner stack

all we're suggesting is that the banner balance takes into account that there are so many of us, and puts a few more guys on the enemy team to make it fairer for everyone .. it's not nice being part of the group that everyone thinks is killing EU1 :(
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2014, 01:48:11 pm »
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I didn't say I am better than most of you. What I said is that the only drawback a small clan like Eques has is the number of players.
The only advantage of a clan like byzantium is the sheer number of it's players, nothing else.
Our average player is as good as your average player, our top players are as good as your top players, with the difference that we have more top/good players proportionately to the total size of the clan.
As english isn't my native language, I hope I did express it coherent now.
I didn't want to brag or anything  :wink:


Eques often joins and leaves a server as a group, which can result in making a round totally unbalanced when 5-8 players leave at once. But that's not our intention, it's just that we leave and join servers as a group usually when we are more than 5 people to play together. When we rolled a multi on Siege or on battle for a while and lose it, it often results in some people joining the other server, and the others follow then.
I don't think it's GTX'ing really, but you can call it whatever you like of course.

Still sounds like bragging, as it doesnt have anything with the topic to do. And if you actually think our clan only does well because of sheer numbers you are living in a cave  8-)
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