Banner Balance

[Herezy92]

As a veteran, i take this merge as a good challenge. I like it.
Of course, i can understand the poor peasants, who clearly has no chances & just have to "enjoy"  being rape against the vanguard clan-stack.

But as it has been said, many of you are over-estimating the real power of clan stacking. (It's far from working all the time, really...)

We need other clans to counter stack us :c Merge mercs & eques & some other clan

No thank you. I have nothing against Eques, and i guess it's the same for them but :

You guys (Nords & Byz) merged because, as you said, you were often playing together (& not only on crpg) and you knew each-others.
So now, you want other clans to merge without any relations/reasons apart "countering your bannerstack" ?
I am sorry, but it seems to be a silly idea. 
Moreover, merging clans can potentially destroy the clan in question if it's not properly prepared.
Merging a clan is an option only if the 2 clans already have a relation & know each others quite well.

FrenchKiss

[Admerius]

Risks with "overbalancing": Tweaking the banner stacks too much isn't a good idea, Imagine switching between x1 and x2, sometimes x3 and in some extreme cases: x4 or x5 due to lucky balance switches.

Banner stacks should be able to steamroll CONSISTENTLY.
As a frequent EU2 player it feels very rewarding when I manage to sneak by and defeat the banner stack almost singlehandedly(has happened about 2-3 times a year for the last two years)

With the current multi system I'm actually for the current banner stack system.

However... to address the issue with a suggestion:
Why not have banner balance disabled on fridays and saturdays?
or...
Tweak the multi gain vs. banner stacks
The idea being: Reward defeating bannerstacks more instead of nerfing bannerstacks.

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if banner stack is 3-5 players and banner stack is <20% of defeated team= no changes
if banner stack is 6-10 players and banner stack is 21-40% of defeated team = gain +2 multi instead of +1(x1->x3)
if banner stack is 11-16 players and banner stack 41-60% of defeated team = gain +3 multi instead of +1(x1->x4)
if banner stack is 16+ players and banner stack 61+% of defeated team = gain +4 multi instead of +1(x1->x5)
Bannerstack vs bannerstack = endlesss x5 is a major issue here, but you get the idea.

This is just a rough draft of what I came up with on the spot

[Gravoth_iii]

So keep merging untill there's only 2 huge stacks left?
I'd rather see big clans split. More smaller clans means more diversity on the field and different team combinations with this bannerbalance system.

It'll be like chinese server, i remember going there a while back and the server was filled with 3 massive clans and almost no non-clannies.

[Corsair831]

It'll be like chinese server, i remember going there a while back and the server was filled with 3 massive clans and almost no non-clannies.

and weirdly, literally no samurai, which is both shocking and disappointing

[Molly]

More clans = more themes = more diversity = more fun.

Merging clans = stupid.

[MURDERTRON]

and weirdly, literally no samurai, which is both shocking and disappointing

Chinese hate the japs.  More Chinese were killed by Japanese than Jews killed by Germans in WW2.  However, the only thing Chinese hate more than the Japanese is complaining about the same old shit all the time.

[Dexxtaa]

Look, guys. EU has drama threads too!

Fuck you Christo!! Your turn now !

[Breidr]

We've also had Squids stacking a lot of players lately on NA.  Makes the game fun, especially when you have to rely on winning multiple rounds because of the multi system.

Don't worry, soon there will only be one clan and we can turn our swords to plowshares.

#sarcasm

[GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER]

Personally I like playing against a big strong banner of good players on the other team because it provides me a challenge. I get to try and target and destroy the players on that banner so that my team can win. I think banner balance is fine in NA.

[bigsean]

get rid of the dumb changing banners on the fly thing thru an alt in that clan or w/e

[Huscarlton_Banks]

I thoroughly enjoy playing with/against the squids (or any banner stack) since it's more interesting than having small series of (1-3)v(1-3) fights all over the map. though a minor complaint I have is that I can't get valour with them on my team when they actually work together.