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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2014, 03:20:09 pm »
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The only advantage of a clan like byzantium is the sheer number of it's players, nothing else.
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2014, 04:37:33 pm »
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2014, 05:58:50 pm »
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Just remove the Bannerbalance.

This is BS.

30 vs 30

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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2014, 06:11:27 pm »
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Just remove the Bannerbalance.

This is BS.

30 vs 30

Vanguard steamrolling them all with their TS / "Pro" tactics (aka. Rape) , winning the round with 2:24
just ban them
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2014, 06:21:36 pm »
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Yeh, tired of being on Vanguard (or whatever their name) team, they keep losing rounds, and x1 isn't that fun.

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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2014, 07:05:20 pm »
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I don't like how you claim your clan merge was "for inactivity lol", because that's bullshit considering you guys have 20 out of 35 players in one team- nevertheless, I appreciate that you may want to play with each other because you guys are close.

I was playing against you guys today, and I was enjoying the challenge but I did feel sorry for the guys who were there to grind/level up/whatever the hip-gamer-kids are saying these days, and have some 'fun'.

Just my two-cents, I really don't have much to say beyond that!
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Realistically, at this stage of the game they are not going to implement a new balancing system.

1) It's summer and everyone is outside playing
2) chadz game/bonerlord/LiF around the corner.
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2014, 09:03:47 pm »
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Like you said you cannot preach inactivity on the Byz side, but definitely on the Nord side, all i see at the moment is 90% Byz and 10% Nord.

Byz are probably the most active clan on Eu1, its summer of course activity goes down.
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2014, 09:30:53 pm »
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And you're forgetting one crucial thing.

This actually made some of the inactive players come back for some fun time with this fresh "breath". On both sides. It was indeed a good thing for these 2 communities to become one. For cRPG too, even more players online.

Now, banner balance, that's another story. And the problem lies there (as always did and might will).

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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2014, 09:32:23 pm »
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Also more people playing (like me) when I see 15 people on. Merges are usually a big activity booster atleast for a while.
When we did a reformation with Risen to Merciless we had 24/7 people online for 2 weeks and then it got way more quiet.
Idk why hate on banner balance because fighting with clanmates is 100x more fun than not, especially the good stuff is when 2 big stacks clash on one of the servers.

I don't know how to fix it but removing banner balance would ruin it quite a bit for clannies imo.
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2014, 10:25:42 pm »
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Merges are usually a big activity booster atleast for a while.
When we did a reformation with Risen to Merciless we had 24/7 people online for 2 weeks and then it got way more quiet.

This actually made some of the inactive players come back for some fun time with this fresh "breath". On both sides. It was indeed a good thing for these 2 communities to become one. For cRPG too, even more players online.

Ok yeah for sure, I agree it can help bring back disinterested old players. That doesn't necessarily mean the cRPG player base is expanding, at all.

As you've mentioned it brings veteran players online for 'at least a while'. Whilst over the course of these last few weeks, we have seen a rise in cRPG players- I doubt they would last in this community with the issues raised by Enver in his thread (will post link). Which is a shame.

Pertaining to banner balance and clan stacking. It does effect the new players as well, at least to me it would. I imagine as a new player it's very difficult to come to grasp with this game- a very steep learning curve. Now imagine trying to even CONTEND against the 'veteran players team' all stacked into one clan. As a new player, fresh out of download, your initial cognition isn't "oh ill join a clan and get better" it's;

 "This game looks fun, I'm excited to do all the things I've seen in the youtube videos/tutorials. Oh wait, no I cant because I need to be slaughtered continuously (levelling up) for 100 hours with a relatively low gain (x1), and additionally endure a server with racist and abusive remarks. Oh I can join a clan? Why would I want to join a clan i'm not even sure if I like this game? Oh wait yeah that's right, I can go play Native/another game."

And at least with FAIRLY EQUAL stacked teams on both sides (less of each clan), the 'steamroll' doesn't happen as often.

Now i'm not saying this is 100% true for all new players, because that would be a very silly thing for me to do. But I can at least speak for the players that aren't really interested in gaming, like myself, who aren't here to grind and win but just to have fun and want to pick up a game and play it- I guess I was lucky that I bumped into Ramses who taught me the ins and outs 30 seconds after I joined my first server, or else I wouldn't have been here!


I digress, sorry for going slightly off topic but hopefully you can understand my thinking with this.
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2014, 02:59:01 am »
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We need other clans to counter stack us :c Merge mercs & eques & some other clan
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #41 on: July 28, 2014, 03:38:15 am »
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Isn't Eques for Germans only (TS in German)?

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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #42 on: July 28, 2014, 08:02:42 am »
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We need other clans to counter stack us :c Merge mercs & eques & some other clan

So keep merging untill there's only 2 huge stacks left?
I'd rather see big clans split. More smaller clans means more diversity on the field and different team combinations with this bannerbalance system.

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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #43 on: July 28, 2014, 09:10:06 am »
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We need other clans to counter stack us :c Merge mercs & eques & some other clan

Mercs have good enough activity to not warrant a merge, but when we do banner stack its once in a blue moon, which i guess is appropriate for the rest of the community.

Anyways the Vanguard banner stack is not as good as people make it out to be, numerous times i have been on and you guys having been loosing maps 4-0, but you have been winning some 4-0.

i do not mind banner stack, most of the time what it will do is put all the cav and archers in the opposite team which is more unbalanced than a banner stack.
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Re: Banner Balance
« Reply #44 on: July 28, 2014, 09:50:12 am »
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Problem is not just the perpetual losing of rounds its also running into gangs of experienced players time after time which is unrewarding. Totally agree if two big stacks on great but from what I've seen get two big stacks on most of the time one stack will go to another server ie to EU1 if on EU2 so they can win non stop. Personally I always enjoyed fighting against clanmates when on TS.