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What would you vote?

Independence
76 (52.8%)
UK
68 (47.2%)

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Re: Independent Scotland
« Reply #90 on: September 16, 2014, 07:59:03 pm »
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On topic: I don't see how this can possibly be an economically viable move. Rule of thumb: pooling resources = higher efficiency, better for everyone.

Not necessarily, smaller territory often mean higher centralization/less corruption.
Would be better to say: pooling manpower = bigger gdp

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Re: Independent Scotland
« Reply #91 on: September 16, 2014, 08:19:23 pm »
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Re: Independent Scotland
« Reply #92 on: September 16, 2014, 09:12:33 pm »
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but muh empire :(
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Re: Independent Scotland
« Reply #93 on: September 16, 2014, 09:33:04 pm »
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So when is the vote?

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Re: Independent Scotland
« Reply #94 on: September 16, 2014, 09:37:19 pm »
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Re: Independent Scotland
« Reply #95 on: September 17, 2014, 10:47:42 am »
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Has there been a proper flow of information to Scottish citizens about what it would take to seperating? Seperating as a state is an extremely technical matter with many consequences that won't be foreseen or understood by many politicians, let alone the average citizen. Fucking democracy, it's like letting the average citizen decide whether it is a good idea to send people to Mars.

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Re: Independent Scotland
« Reply #98 on: September 17, 2014, 05:46:57 pm »
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Ignored and fed up, UK regions call for Scottish-style devolution

Nice post Basnak, I think everyone should read that if they are interested in the UK. I think regional devolution will be the best thing for this country.
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Re: Independent Scotland
« Reply #99 on: September 17, 2014, 06:55:53 pm »
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Nice post Basnak, I think everyone should read that if they are interested in the UK. I think regional devolution will be the best thing for this country.
Devolution could be a good thing, but it could also have bad consequences. You need some clear rules as to who decides which things, if not you will run into tons of duplicities and disputes over who can do what.
In Spain, a similar thing happened after Franco died, with the "Comunidades Autónomas" (Autonomous Comunities). First of all some of the divisions were decided somewhat arbitrarily (eg Madrid is alone despite it having always been part of Castile, but hell, it's the government, so let's give it special status), and there are plenty of entities where duplicity of functions happens (eg Diputación and local government, both of those with Autonomous Government, and autonomous government with national). A clear example was with local TV stations. Every CA, most big towns, etc used to have various TV stations, loads of which have gone bankrupt simply because there is no demand for so many shit stations. (eg Canal 9, which was the epitome of crap)
Yet again, this is the UK, where things are generally (at least from what I have seen) done slightly better than in Spain, so maybe this will not be an issue.

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Re: Independent Scotland
« Reply #100 on: September 17, 2014, 07:38:45 pm »
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Devolution could be a good thing, but it could also have bad consequences. You need some clear rules as to who decides which things, if not you will run into tons of duplicities and disputes over who can do what.
In Spain, a similar thing happened after Franco died, with the "Comunidades Autónomas" (Autonomous Comunities). First of all some of the divisions were decided somewhat arbitrarily (eg Madrid is alone despite it having always been part of Castile, but hell, it's the government, so let's give it special status), and there are plenty of entities where duplicity of functions happens (eg Diputación and local government, both of those with Autonomous Government, and autonomous government with national). A clear example was with local TV stations. Every CA, most big towns, etc used to have various TV stations, loads of which have gone bankrupt simply because there is no demand for so many shit stations. (eg Canal 9, which was the epitome of crap)
Yet again, this is the UK, where things are generally (at least from what I have seen) done slightly better than in Spain, so maybe this will not be an issue.

Thanks for that insight man, it was interesting. We generally have a pretty good civil service, and local councils are already in place, they just need to be given a bit more power ;)
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Re: Independent Scotland
« Reply #101 on: September 17, 2014, 08:23:05 pm »
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I want them to fuck off, especially Tizzango that scottish twat, they can take the Northerners with them too.

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Re: Independent Scotland
« Reply #102 on: September 18, 2014, 09:57:14 am »
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Question: would the oil belong to mainland Scotland, or to the Island groups?
Because, well, this sort of was proposed some time ago: http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/GettingInvolved/Petitions/islandgroups
A shame that the Scottish government decided not to allow it... If only there was a country that may have...

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Re: Independent Scotland
« Reply #103 on: September 18, 2014, 12:24:53 pm »
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City states becoming a new trend in the future maybe?

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Re: Independent Scotland
« Reply #104 on: September 18, 2014, 12:30:42 pm »
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