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 Do you think that the STRENGTH requirement for Medium/Heavy tier armours, should be increased?

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Min-maxers wearing Lordly medium armor and Lordly Heavy Gauntlets are more problematic than 24+ Agi folks wearing full plate.


definitely, I think the same requirements ahould apply to heavy gauntlets (HG, Plate Mittens...)
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Heskey, knitler doesn't have an agi build, maybe that comes as a surprise to some but he has 21 str afaik.

Also high armour with an agibuild hurts much more than with a str build because the higher weight fucks up your speed but not your damage. Str crutchers are so viable in high armour because they have no speed to be fucked up but still deal massive damage. It's kinda lame to cry to me in-game when you need to spam me 6 times before killing me while I have 6 IF and am so slow with my armour I can't do shit vs a 2handed sword bundle of sticks spammer called panos.

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you dipshit, I had a lordly axe and 27 STR and still I needed 7 hits to kill you.

Moron.
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It were 6 before? Also that usually doesn't happen to other players so maybe 2h is not that easy? :3

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you dipshit, I had a lordly axe and 27 STR and still I needed 7 hits to kill you.

Moron.

Worst footwork ever if that's true
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Worst footwork ever if that's true

Maybe.

Or maybe it was a combination of low athletics and 70+ body armour of my enemy that made me need so many hits  :wink:

as I said already, Agility > Strength.
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If agility > strength, then why did you have 27 str?

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Because this is an alt character that I have to leech gold.

I play with peasant gear, and I need high IF and STR to compensate for the lack of armour.
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Raise difficulty in all medium/heavy and nerf piercing arrow dmg vs heavy armor. Currently arrows make ridiculously high pierce damage when wearing full plate / heavy tier armour.

After last major patch str been wiped out completely. All you need is max 18str and rest u can place in agility. Str is too weak compared to agility, what is the base of the most skills.
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Or otherwise, buff Strengh

Motivate people to go for 15 STR and above

Some quick examples that come in mind..

Each powerstrike point above 5, gives 15% more damage insread of 8%
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Each ironflesh point abonve 5, gives 4 hp instead of 2
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Or otherwise, buff Strengh

Motivate people to go for 15 STR and above

Some quick examples that come in mind..

Each powerstrike point above 5, gives 15% more damage insread of 8%
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Each ironflesh point abonve 5, gives 4 hp instead of 2
Panos, what are you talking about?  :o
Buffing str builds like that would be a disaster, I don't even think they need a buff at all, STR vs AGI seems like pretty balanced choice right now.
Also, what Gurni said and what I've been saying too: wearing heavy armour with agi build is a waste. You're much deadlier in rugs as an agi build.
Seriously, I feel like my setup (build + equipment) is OP enough already.

(Funny though how Agi-builded Panos says STR needs a buff while I being Str-builded say it doesn't  :mrgreen:)

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All my previous builds were based on STR, but seeing how pointless STR was/is, I decided to go for more agi based builds.

First I tried a 21/21 at level 34 build, which was beastly, and now I`m using 18/24 at level 33 which is beastly again.
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Panos, what are you talking about?  :o
Buffing str builds like that would be a disaster, I don't even think they need a buff at all, STR vs AGI seems like pretty balanced choice right now.
Also, what Gurni said and what I've been saying too: wearing heavy armour with agi build is a waste. You're much deadlier in rugs as an agi build.
Seriously, I feel like my setup (build + equipment) is OP enough already.

(Funny though how Agi-builded Panos says STR needs a buff while I being Str-builded say it doesn't  :mrgreen:)

Well tbh agi is op in the manner of hits taken compared to movement speed loss of str. You can eat 3 hits in clothes with agi build and the same with medium armor and 21 str. This is where str lost the advantage it never had. ;)

I used to be str, but after free respec i went agi cuz str is just bollocks atm. Your wep gets stunned all the time cuz of loss in wpf.

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Agi also gives alot more damage boost when you count speed + wpf compared to powerstrike + wpf + speed loss..
This is totally wrong.. 24 str 8ps should cut archer in half with 1 hit, but sadly you need sometimes even 3 if not using one of the best axes in the game.
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Knitler has 7 athletics, and the definition of agi build for me at least (guess for most people too) is 8+ athletics. So - no, agi builds aren't good in plate.