Increase the difficulty requirement on Medium/Heavy tier armours. POLL ADDED!

[Prpavi]

says the HA...

a Horse Archer that has more strength than your melee/cav whatever non ranged class you play

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[Ronin]

STR gives better hp ---> useful with armor.

[Panos_]

STR gives better hp ---> useful with armor.

I lold.

[Zhyang]

cool new signature panos

[Gurnisson]

Heskey, going above medium armour as an agility build is a waste of your build, the minor increase in survivability is not worth the drain on your movement. Going high-tier armour with strength build increases your survivability a lot if you have a lot of IF as well, making it possible to soak quite enormous amount of damage before going down. That's where armour really shines.

I've played pretty much any possible infantry build from 6/33 to 36/3.

I lold.

lol as much as you want, it's the truth.

[Ronin]

I lold.

Combined with some ironflesh it really boosts the survivability. Why did you find it so funny?

[Panos_]

Pros of using a STR build with a lot of IF and plate armour
1. Survivability (8 to 10 hits??)
2. You can two hit the majority of the players

Cons of using a STR build with a lot of IF and plate armour
1. Slow as fuck
2. If left alone, it is almost certain that you`ll get ganked
3. Everyone can outswing you
4. Easy target for ranged due to the lack of ATH
5. Loss of hit damage due to no speed bonus


Pros of using an agi based build with some IF and plate
1. Survivability, (5-6 hits??)
2. Good bonus damage due to hight speed
3. Can outswing most
4. Can easily avoid ranged, but still having the safety of plate armour
5. Can easily escape a mob who hunts him

Cons of using an agi based build with some IF and plate
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I never understood why the mod favours spam and agility that much, for real.

[Latvian]

how did agi builds got nerfed?

[Panos_]

how did agi builds got nerfed?

they didnt, since day of the mod only STR build are getting nerfed.

Thats why I opened this thread.

[Butan]

I'm for increase of pre-req but I also know that agi-balanced build with plate is not THAT good, it is indeed the weakest argument in favor of that change (but its not the only one); one could argue, if thats weak and people gimp themselves using it, there should be few complaints if the str req increase.

[Snufalufagus]

I cant vote but I would say yes.  However, would take these poor guys a long time to balance.

[San]

For consistency's sake, it makes sense for weapons and armour to scale up to 21, even 24. As far as balance is concerned, I think agi+heavy armour is pretty dang good, but I wouldn't say 15/24 is better than 24/15, but I think it's much closer than people made it out to be when underestimating the agi build.

[Rhaelys]

For consistency's sake, bow and shield requirements should also be up-scaled.

[San]

Skill point requirements are a bit different IMO, but let's see. Most shields have pretty low requirements, but each shield is balanced around its difficulty, meaning that you'll have to change every shield that has its difficulty adjusted. Bows already have 3 weapons at 6 difficulty, more than any other weapon type.

[Rhaelys]

Min-maxers wearing Lordly medium armor and Lordly Heavy Gauntlets are more problematic than 24+ Agi folks wearing full plate.