Thranduil's DTV maps. Feedback Thread. (Currently on map-making hiatus)

[Thranduil]

In the "fort" map (sorry, I don't know the name), the new ballista at the end of the slope leads to boring/nobrainer/sigh shieldwall and no other place of the map has a footstep but bots'.

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I was afraid that might be a possibility with that ballista platform. (The # of shielders in NA dtv has gone almost to 0, so shield walls haven't been on my mind lately. I was thinking of encouraging a low level to stay behind and watch for bots that got past, while still having a shot at hitting something with a ballista). Guess I'll remove it.

As for the hovering corn, .... I have no idea why the small plant object isn't visible. I checked it with both DX9 and DX7 and it's there. Either you're missing the texture file for it, or.... well, honestly, I dunno. 

I guess while I'm playing archer and wouldn't be COMPLETELY useless on the EU server, I oughta play dtv there some since there's more players on it, and most of the glitches found on my maps have been found by EU (case in point, I just hopped on EU7, and someone found one on my first dtv map.... and as with all glitches, there's no way to actually do it  )

***Shameless plug time***
While playing EU7,  we go to the final wave of the final round (chadz bots, tincans, Fips, Tydeus, and all the rest) on Celtic Ruins! ... We lost though.

*** Updated Desert Ruins, Mein Bridge, Motte and Bailey, and Viking Village.

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Desert Ruins:
     Added wall piece to main entrance to make it more defensible. Added ground paint.
Mein Bridge:
     Removed AI barriers so bots can fall in water and drown. Move spawns closer. Moved ballistas around.
Motte and Bailey:
     Removed EZ mode ballista shield wall.
Viking Village:
     Doubled a barrier to prevent glitching outside of intended play zone. Added ground paint.

************ 2/23/2014

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City Revolt:
     Added texture paint to the village terrain = not so shiny stones. Moved a couple ballistas to hopefully prevent glitching/exploiting and to give players a better use of the ballistas. Moved the weapon rack closer to V (it's directly to the left). Added tall platforms for archers.
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Desert Ruins:
     Made side entrances *slightly* smaller, so hopefully more defensible.

[Patoson]

In the beach map, there are the remains of a boat on the sand which some people use to exploit so they can hit bots with long weapons while bots can't hit them. If you could remove that boat, one type of exploiting less to worry about.

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And on Desert Ruins, bots get stuck at the back-left spawn sometimes (maybe because they have line of sight with the viscount or players and they keep shooting without moving).

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[Thranduil]

Lichens Island: Flipped the boat and added AI mesh over it.

Desert Ruins: Not sure if it's line of sight problem, or that glitch where 1 bot gets stuck at it's spawn point. It happens now and again. Does that happen a lot there on that map?
At any rate, I've lowered the terrain level there and edited the AI mesh accordingly.


EDIT*
And of all the.... I finally get to play Motte and Bailey for the first time in like a month, and I find hovering corn like you did, Patoson! Either the patch removed that scene object, or moved/renamed it. Good grief. Devs keep taking away my toys. Guess I'll probably end up removing the corn. =P

Corn and plant still there without WSE2. Weird. But I guess I might still take it out since it doesn't show.


EDIT** 3/9/2014
Updated Lichens Island. Basically made the gate thicker to prevent knifing and punching through (and no lucky pikes either, I hope). Seen too many players ignore their teammates and the viscount because they can sit at the gate and knife up a high kill count. I've even seen the map be lost because of this. It was funny when it was just punching, especially when it was peasants punching. With only one ballista (and really, nowhere to shoot the ballista) it gave the peasants a little something to pass the time, but now it's an exploit that is being exploited FAR beyond my intentions.
Anyways, gate is now 5x thicker to match the gate in Ozins Sea Raid map. Sorry guys.

[Thranduil]

It's been long overdue, but I've updated the OP with links to all the maps.

[Moncho]

In city revolt, people are abusing the stairs to the keep, standing on them and the bots go for them but do not attempt to go up the stairs
Also, the doors (in the place where there are 4, from spawn to keep next to the main gate) dont seem to work fine sometimes, when they are left open at the end of the round I think, appearing open when closed, and the other way round.

[Thranduil]

In city revolt, people are abusing the stairs to the keep, standing on them and the bots go for them but do not attempt to go up the stairs
Also, the doors (in the place where there are 4, from spawn to keep next to the main gate) dont seem to work fine sometimes, when they are left open at the end of the round I think, appearing open when closed, and the other way round.

The latest version of the map won't have the doors anymore. I must not have put an AI mesh on those stairs (not that I'm sure the bots could climb those particular ones). I'll take a look at it and either add barriers to it, or an AI mesh there.


****Updated City Revolt.

[Patoson]

On the map Celtic Ruins, there's a spot on the wall where people can camp and bots won't hit them. It's on the right side, near the ballista.

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It would be great if it were made inaccessible to get rid of another lame "tactic" (as they like to call it).

[Thranduil]

On the map Celtic Ruins, there's a spot on the wall where people can camp and bots won't hit them. It's on the right side, near the ballista.

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It would be great if it were made inaccessible to get rid of another lame "tactic" (as they like to call it).

Woohoo! Finally! I was afraid that map would never need updating.    Now I can move the Dalek!    Actually, I already have, but now there's an update to go with it! Done and uploaded version 1.1. Thanks Patoson. Now I gotta decide where to move him next, assuming there will ever be another update to that map, but I'm sure someone will find something for me to do with it. 

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In that same map, sometimes bots get stuck at the spawn past the bridge and you have to go there and lure them

Too soon! lol I'll see if it's something I can fix. Are they stuck on terrain, or are they just not moving? I've seen the one bot that never moves on the left. Or is this on horses rounds? If it's horses, I don't think there's anything I can do about that. Horse AI is just that dumb.  .... Actually, you may not see this if I don't add another post.

[Moncho]

In that same map, sometimes bots get stuck at the spawn past the bridge and you have to go there and lure them

[Thranduil]

In that same map, sometimes bots get stuck at the spawn past the bridge and you have to go there and lure them

Too soon! lol I'll see if it's something I can fix. Are they stuck on terrain, or are they just not moving? I've seen the one bot that never moves on the left occasionally, though I think that's the AI being silly since the AI mesh looks fine. Or is this on horses rounds? If it's horses, I don't think there's anything I can do about that. Horse AI is just that dumb. 

[Moncho]

It just stays there still, on foot. I saw it on the Fallen round (outcasts), one of the heavy armoured ones with a morningstar stood there and I had to go all the way there to kill it (or shoot it from afar).

[Thranduil]

Hmmm... I wish I could just say it's bad AI, but aside from this map, I can't remember another map where this is a problem. At least, I can not vividly remember. This would have to be the AI mesh that's at fault, but the AI mesh in those areas looks perfectly fine and I would imagine it would be more than a 1 bot problem, but I'll redo the AI meshes in those sections anyway.

EDIT
Done and uploaded version 1.11. Hopefully this will stop those troll bots. Didn't move the Dalek again for this one though. 

[nilloc93]

on city revolt you can use the northmost balista to glitch into the upper floor of a house along the path.

[Thranduil]

on city revolt you can use the northmost balista to glitch into the upper floor of a house along the path.

Yep. I'm awaiting the next patch to install the update to the map. The barrier will be moved center of that platform with space around it to prevent that glitching.

[Elio]

Thanks Thranduil for your good work.

Now DTV is alive again.

Just a suggestion: Is there a way to open the sky of DTV_Mein_Bridge map. Cave make me a bit claustrophobic.