Two-directional polearms are a fucking joke

[oohillac]

These threads are always a fucking joke.

The 2d overheads are so easy to read all you need to do is downblock for anything else.

l2p gf etc

[Lord_Bernie_of_Voodoo]

Two Hand, One Hand and 2D Polearms all have "OP" stabs. (Although I would argue that 2D polearms aren't easy to play at all, unlike an Espada or a German Greatsword.) The initial problem was the absurd versatility of two hand swords, but instead of nerfing them, they just made other commonly played classes in the same category. The game is hilariously over the top now.

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[MURDERTRON]

for me a weapon is op if it can be abused by the average player (like awl and rondel)

A lot of people would argue that all Longsword are just average, and yet here we are.  Maybe Danish is a batter analogy for EU, though.

[Jona]

A lot of people would argue that all Longsword are just average, and yet here we are.  Maybe Danish is a batter analogy for EU, though.

Seriously? If there is anyone who thinks a longsword is a remotely balanced weapon, please step forward. Someone needs to give you a good smack.



Longsword is easily one of the easiest weapons in the game to use, if not the easiest. I honestly can't think of anything off the top of my head that would be better.

[korppis]

Just bring the old heavier turn rate "nerf" back. That would make it at least possible to dodge some of them, for all weapon types.

[Tzar]

buff the speed on swings on all other weapons, stop nerfing shit, more buffing plz 

[Kafein]

buff the speed on swings on all other weapons, stop nerfing shit, more buffing plz 

I'd say buff the stun when you stab and get blocked.

[oohillac]

I'd say buff the stun when you stab and get blocked.

That stun is already crazy-long, with most 2d/1d it's a free hit for the blocker if they are close enough.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

That stun is already crazy-long, with most 2d/1d it's a free hit for the blocker if they are close enough.

Bullshit

[oohillac]

Bullshit

Try actually using these weapons for a respectable period of time, then you can comment.

[Kafein]

That stun is already crazy-long, with most 2d/1d it's a free hit for the blocker if they are close enough.

Certainly not "most" but it does happen against very fast swingers. Hence why I don't like the idea of buffing swing speeds. Buff blocking !

[Chosen1]

buff 2h

[Elindor]

Funny this seems to be popping up a lot these days - totally agree with Teeth's original post though.

As has been said in other threads - nerf stab in general, all weapon types.

Stab is just the poorest execution of physics in the current engine...creates some really weird and unnatural situations.

[oohillac]

Certainly not "most" but it does happen against very fast swingers. Hence why I don't like the idea of buffing swing speeds. Buff blocking !

or, crazy idea, just leave the shit that is already balanced alone

[MURDERTRON]

Seriously? If there is anyone who thinks a longsword is a remotely balanced weapon, please step forward. Someone needs to give you a good smack.



Longsword is easily one of the easiest weapons in the game to use, if not the easiest. I honestly can't think of anything off the top of my head that would be better.

Sorry, I omitted the word "user".  That was supposed to be a stab at 2h players.  No pun intended.  But intended.

Also, the only way to fix the balance issues we have now is to add a throwing mode to awl pikes that does 184p damage and is retrievable from dead bodies.