Two-directional polearms are a fucking joke

[Teeth]

Pick any random two-directional stab focused polearm and start stabbing. Unless you are terrible you will quickly find out that the stabs are extremely quick and extremely long. Now of course the same could be said about 1h stabs and perhaps even 2h stabs, so I am willing to say that all stabs are OP. The thing is that these weapons are extremely good at stabbing which makes these weapons the most OP weapon on the server.

Most shining example is the awlpike, which is now effective to the utter tip of its reach, which is incredibly hard to spot. People will continously underestimate your reach and usually die. It goes for Ranseur and the bulk as well though. Easily the best battle weapons at the moment.

Stabs need more tweaking as in its current state I expect the entire server to go lawlpike or something similar.

[Panos_]

I second Teeth on this one, ghostreach and stabs are the cancer of this mod..

[Nightmare798]

obligatory hiltslash rant post.

[Latvian]

it is quiet surprising that you complain about polearms teeth as you abuse them to max by yourself   but if polearms get nerfed somehow than something should be done with that insane 1 h stab which is worse than 2 h lolstab, atleast in my opinion.

[San]

I've always treated the awlpike series' stabs like Gungnir, so I've managed. The mix of the overheads and stabs that can both hit quickly make them formidable. I would agree that they're some of the best weapons in battle, but I don't think they're OP or in need of a stats adjustment. A group of stab weapons have always been able to wreck in melee.

I agree that all stabs need to be tweaked with more clearly defined inactive regions instead of the instastab and late stab we have now (especially with high base damage). I don't find any particular stab that dominating over another outside of weapon stats, so I feel it's maintaining a strange balance right now since there's always a chance of getting outstabbed.

[Nightmare798]

i dont mind what they are, it pisses me off how they are used.

it is practically: backpedal and spam stab untill someone misses their slash and then one shot him.

there are very few cases of pussy-play like this one.

EDIT: down-vote me more you awlpike scrubs, it doesnt change nothing.

[Nightmare798]

it is quiet surprising that you complain about polearms teeth as you abuse them to max by yourself   but if polearms get nerfed somehow than something should be done with that insane 1 h stab which is worse than 2 h lolstab, atleast in my opinion.

it is not as bad as people make it out, yeah it is powerful, but you will still glance a lot at point blank, and the glance stun leaves a lot to be desired.

at least 40% of all my deaths come from glanced stab.

edit: shit, double posted. sorry.

[Teeth]

it is quiet surprising that you complain about polearms teeth as you abuse them to max by yourself   but if polearms get nerfed somehow than something should be done with that insane 1 h stab which is worse than 2 h lolstab, atleast in my opinion.

Aww come on, I always whine about the OP ness of my class when I play something OP.

[Nightmare798]

Aww come on, I always whine about the OP ness of my class when I play something OP.

it is actually kinda cool that you have balls to admit you are using and abusing something overpowered, and you say that it should be fixed.

respect.

[Rebelyell]

Pick any random two-directional stab focused polearm and start stabbing. Unless you are terrible you will quickly find out that the stabs are extremely quick and extremely long. Now of course the same could be said about 1h stabs and perhaps even 2h stabs, so I am willing to say that all stabs are OP. The thing is that these weapons are extremely good at stabbing which makes these weapons the most OP weapon on the server.

Most shining example is the awlpike, which is now effective to the utter tip of its reach, which is incredibly hard to spot. People will continously underestimate your reach and usually die. It goes for Ranseur and the bulk as well though. Easily the best battle weapons at the moment.

Stabs need more tweaking as in its current state I expect the entire server to go lawlpike or something similar.

You have my respect back piker, I agree with that
but what we can do when NA balance EU

[Legs]

I've always treated the awlpike series' stabs like Gungnir, so I've managed.

THIS.

Awlpikes have always been this way, you just need to keep in mind that the pointy end is dangerous and that you should BLOCK DOWN.

[Gurnisson]

Long Spear and Pike is better than 2d polearms though. I've played with pike, long spear, ranseur, spetum, long awlpike, awlpike, ashwood pike, english bill, battle fork, military fork and swiss halberd. The reach of the 1d polearms is better than the speed and the added attacking direction of 2d polearms. Damage is similar with the added speed bonus for slow weapons.

By the way, playing with a mw german greatsword feel like a slightly weaker long awlpike on the stab with much better overhead and two great side swings. 

[Erzengel]

I agree with Teeth, especially Awlpikes are totally retarded. By far the most broken weapon in the game at the moment. They deal huge damage, have a good range and are just insanely fast. Combine this with kick spamming and enjoy the easy mode...

[Palurgee]

I'm sure I'd have a lot more to say about the awlpike if it was a more popular weapon. I just don't see it that often, but when I do, I agree that it is a bit silly; especially with these crazy mega-kicks. Maybe it should be made purely one-directional?

[wayyyyyne]

Whats this insane speed everyones talking about? The awlpike being the fastest of infamous stabby polearms is on par with a GLA speed wise which I wouldn't exactly call fast. mediocore at best if anything.
What really nets you kills with an awlpike is the misperception of its actual range. That's really the only thing that needs to be adressed in some way.
As for the kicks--->you can dodge those.