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Re: Polearms vs Two handers
« Reply #105 on: May 17, 2013, 03:05:39 pm »
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I don't see any difference. They're both for cunt players
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Re: Polearms vs Two handers
« Reply #106 on: May 17, 2013, 03:09:01 pm »
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Dave, show the whole truth at least.

Mauwits, Burak and Phase, top the scoreboard.

Phase is asian, so you cant take him into account without making your argument invalid. He has to be pro!
Burak has a str build afaik, and lets be honest, strenght build makes every class easy mode except arbalester.
And there is no significant difference between mauwits and gurnis/strudogs K/D
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Re: Polearms vs Two handers
« Reply #107 on: May 17, 2013, 03:22:23 pm »
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Okay. You speak a lot about theory. Lets take last strat battle. Absolutely best KDs on their sides and both in top3 by kills. Guess what classes? Polearmers, if you want to specify - long spear users.
Side 1:
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Nothing to say that Strudog spent 1/3 of the battle inside of the village protecting spawn from cav.
Hah, classic. You want to be an item balancer and you take Strat battles as your reference?

It is true, long stabby weapons, whether it's a Pike, Longspear or a hoplite weapon, are the undisputed kings of Strategus field and village battles. Why? Simple, they are the best support weapons and because of constant respawns, there is simply always someone to support, which allows you to use the weapon in an environment that maximizes its efficiency for one and a half hour straight. Ever tried playing an offensive ladder siege with a Longspear though, without actually gaining a foothold? They get outshined by far by Steel Picks, Morningstars and Great Mauls, and that is why you don't use Strategus scores as a balance argument.

Oh my god DaveUKR got 60-0 in Strat with an Arbalest, OP, nurf.

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Re: Polearms vs Two handers
« Reply #108 on: May 17, 2013, 03:29:20 pm »
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Polearms are inferior to 2handers.

Slower, same damage, the lolstab can outreach swings, ghostrange, never bounce, histslashes.


I agree, with Gunri, polestagger was a total bullshit, but for mother of god, NERF 2HANDERS a bit.


panos learn 2 play nub, 2h is hard mod pole easy shit
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Re: Polearms vs Two handers
« Reply #109 on: May 17, 2013, 03:38:40 pm »
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Hah, classic. You want to be an item balancer and you take Strat battles as your reference?

It is true, long stabby weapons, whether it's a Pike, Longspear or a hoplite weapon, are the undisputed kings of Strategus field and village battles. Why? Simple, they are the best support weapons and because of constant respawns, there is simply always someone to support, which allows you to use the weapon in an environment that maximizes its efficiency for one and a half hour straight. Ever tried playing an offensive ladder siege with a Longspear though, without actually gaining a foothold? They get outshined by far by Steel Picks, Morningstars and Great Mauls, and that is why you don't use Strategus scores as a balance argument.

Oh my god DaveUKR got 60-0 in Strat with an Arbalest, OP, nurf.

I tend not to take Strat fights into account but Panos wanted it. People tend to read only those parts of text that they want to read. If you reread my posts you would clearly see that I'm not stating that polearms are better or even as good as 2h. It's obvious to everyone that 2hs are better if you gather all the facts. I was just trying to say that these classes have little bit different purposes and the gap between 2h and polearms in balance is not that big.

Players tend to compare incomparable things. You can't say that arbalest is better than a longspear on any distance more than 5 meters even though it's obvious.

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Re: Polearms vs Two handers
« Reply #110 on: May 17, 2013, 03:39:26 pm »
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I´d really like to respec to 2h my old friend and you show how easy it is in duels and stuff ... but nope, i want something more challenging ;)
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Re: Polearms vs Two handers
« Reply #111 on: May 17, 2013, 03:40:15 pm »
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I´d really like to respec to 2h my old friend and you show how easy it is in duels and stuff ... but nope, i want something more challenging ;)
Hoplite in transitional armour?

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Re: Polearms vs Two handers
« Reply #112 on: May 17, 2013, 03:40:33 pm »
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Hoplite in transitional armour?

Just for battle :-D
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Re: Polearms vs Two handers
« Reply #113 on: May 17, 2013, 03:41:58 pm »
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I´d really like to respec to 2h my old friend and you show how easy it is in duels and stuff ... but nope, i want something more challenging ;)

Wait don't you run around in lordly transitional armor and abuse awlpike lolstab?  :P
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Re: Polearms vs Two handers
« Reply #114 on: May 17, 2013, 03:43:25 pm »
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Wait don't you run around in lordly transitional armor and abuse awlpike lolstab?  :P

After you get on an higher level you automatically use better stuff cause you can survive their upkeep, and yes. But still 2h is fucking easy, everybody can handle it, and with some little tricks like abusing the animation, shaking/wiggling around abit .... spinning, stuff like that its very easy.
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Re: Polearms vs Two handers
« Reply #115 on: May 17, 2013, 04:03:04 pm »
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hihi u polearmers are so hipster  :mrgreen:

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Re: Polearms vs Two handers
« Reply #116 on: May 17, 2013, 04:16:56 pm »
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hihi u polearmers are so hipster  :mrgreen:

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Prpavi i think you are the only player that makes 2h look crap, oh and Harddrada too
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Re: Polearms vs Two handers
« Reply #117 on: May 17, 2013, 04:18:47 pm »
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Prpavi i think you are the only player that makes 2h look crap, oh and Harddrada too

am i supposed to get offended? lol

played both classes love them both, agree lolstab is bull just like pikestab, wheres the problem?
And now he can't play because of "common sense" and he doesn't understand how this common sense works
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Re: Polearms vs Two handers
« Reply #118 on: May 17, 2013, 04:18:59 pm »
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hihi u polearmers are so hipster  :mrgreen:

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Re: Polearms vs Two handers
« Reply #119 on: May 17, 2013, 04:22:25 pm »
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After you get on an higher level you automatically use better stuff cause you can survive their upkeep, and yes. But still 2h is fucking easy, everybody can handle it, and with some little tricks like abusing the animation, shaking/wiggling around abit .... spinning, stuff like that its very easy.

ezzzzzzzzzz brah ezzzzzzzzzzzzzz 1 direction insta stab way harder man
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