FOOTBALL THREAD (the real football not that american crap)

[Leshma]

We'll see about that next week when Mourinho rips him a new one.

I'm not a manager, not even football coach but I know perfectly well how to play against Wenger's Arsenal. It's way too simple actually. Pull back everyone, strengthen the sides, tell defenders to watch for cute little crosses (Jack Wilshere, master of passing into nothing hopping that teammates read his mind), wait for their overconfident midfielders lose the ball (they wouldn't lose it in any other League because ref would call a foul, but in England you can play rugby from time to time), then counterattack and go against slow as fuck Mert. Simple as that and works every time. Because fucking Arsenal always play the same! Do you remember when Arsenal was godlike tier and no one could defend against them? Well one game something happened, some manager figured it out and placed proper defense against Wenger's time for the first time in years and it worked. Since then magic was gone and Arsenal started struggling. Until this very day. Soon there will be 10 year anniversary of that moment when Wenger's tactics became publicly known to every manager in England.

If Wenger tries to go for win against Chelski, which he will do because there is no other choice and frankly, Arsenal can't defend. He will be humiliated, again. Mourinho will place that einstein jugend on one wing and Hazzard on the other and they will mess the Arsenal on counterattacks so bad, Jack will be so pissed he'll do something overly stupid and get a loong suspension. Rest will just be sulking around the pitch for last 60 minutes, after they conceded 5 goals in just 30 mins.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out, every single football aficionado knows this very well.

[Strudog]

We'll see about that next week when Mourinho rips him a new one.

I'm not a manager, not even football coach but I know perfectly well how to play against Wenger's Arsenal. It's way too simple actually. Pull back everyone, strengthen the sides, tell defenders to watch for cute little crosses (Jack Wilshere, master of passing into nothing hopping that teammates read his mind), wait for their overconfident midfielders lose the ball (they wouldn't lose it in any other League because ref would call a foul, but in England you can play rugby from time to time), then counterattack and go against slow as fuck Mert. Simple as that and works every time. Because fucking Arsenal always play the same! Do you remember when Arsenal was godlike tier and no one could defend against them? Well one game something happened, some manager figured it out and placed proper defense against Wenger's time for the first time in years and it worked. Since then magic was gone and Arsenal started struggling. Until this very day. Soon there will be 10 year anniversary of that moment when Wenger's tactics became publicly known to every manager in England.

If Wenger tries to go for win against Chelski, which he will do because there is no other choice and frankly, Arsenal can't defend. He will be humiliated, again. Mourinho will place that einstein jugend on one wing and Hazzard on the other and they will mess the Arsenal on counterattacks so bad, Jack will be so pissed he'll do something overly stupid and get a loong suspension. Rest will just be sulking around the pitch for last 60 minutes, after they conceded 5 goals in just 30 mins.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out, every single football aficionado knows this very well.

Dont know why i ever thought you were an Arsenal fan, up to your trolling antics again leshma.

[Gurnisson]

Wenger is too stubborn and doesn't seem to know how to set up his team to counter other team's strengths or weaknesses.

[Leshma]

He could be legendary manager in Spanish Primera but not in England, the only football league in the world where players like Brede Hangelang are considered as being good. Wenger tried to change the nature of British football and somewhat succeeded at that but recently its again going the its physical, long ball ways. Appointing Webb as head of referee association doesn't help the cause, he is know for letting players fight harder then usual. Also there are still relics like Martin Atkinson, who's been a referee since I've started watching football.

British football is joy to watch because it is very competitive but it lacks finesse and actual tactics. That's why English teams suck cock in CL, there's no silly referees to promote rough style of play.

[Falka]

Wenger is too stubborn and doesn't seem to know how to set up his team to counter other team's strengths or weaknesses.

He doesn't know how or he doesn't want to change his team playstyle, he always play in the same way, no matter who's on the other half of pitch. Works somewhat fine against lesser teams, not so much against good ones.

Arsene is one of the best managers in the world whether you like to disagree with it or not.

With quality which he has he shouldnt' have lost 0-6, 1-5, 2-6 in last season, or 2-8 few years ago.

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This guy will be new ZIdane Golden age ahead of german national team.

[Zhyang]

Whats his name

[Gurnisson]

Pretty sure it's Draxler

[Swaggart]

British football is joy to watch because it is very competitive but it lacks finesse and actual tactics. That's why English teams suck cock in CL, there's no silly referees to promote rough style of play.

In the last ten years English, Spanish and Italian teams have won the champions league 3 times with one German team making up 10. How you get this idea that English teams "suck cock" in the champions league is beyond me. Seems like an age of parity if anything.

Sorry, Spanish teams 4 times and Italian teams twice.

[Leshma]

Only Man Utd deserved to win the trophy. Liverpool was incredibly lucky that night in Istanbul (they were losing by 3 goals on halftime). Chelsea won because Drogba wanted badly to win it. Both were very lucky. Just like Mourinho with Inter Milan and Porto. Shitty teams and defensive football both times. Disgusting.

Another thing, national teams of Germany, Spain and Italy were dominant in last 10 years. England was nowhere to be seen.

[Falka]

Pretty sure it's Draxler

Yup, Draxler.

In the last ten years English, Spanish and Italian teams have won the champions league 3 times with one German team making up 10. How you get this idea that English teams "suck cock" in the champions league is beyond me. Seems like an age of parity if anything.

Sorry, Spanish teams 4 times and Italian teams twice.

Nah, successes of the last decade say nothing about current condition of top leagues in europe. Serie A teams have won more trophies than Bundesliga in last decade, but just look where are they now. In last 2-3 years english teams looked really poor in CL.

[Osiris]

I know rite.
Chelsea won the CL 2011/12 and were in the Semis last year. 2010/11 United were beaten finalists.


It seems 2 seasons without an EPL team in the final means they all suck cock in Europe even if an EPL team won it 3 seasons ago and had a semi finalist last year ^^


Teams in the Finals for last 7 Champions Leagues from the EPL? answer is 5 ^^ much cock was sucked. Sure the EPL teams are not doing amazing but really poor?

[Falka]

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I know rite.
Chelsea won the CL 2011/12 and were in the Semis last year. 2010/11 United were beaten finalists.


It seems 2 seasons without an EPL team in the final means they all suck cock in Europe even if an EPL team won it 3 seasons ago and had a semi finalist last year ^^


Teams in the Finals for last 7 Champions Leagues from the EPL? answer is 5 ^^ much cock was sucked.

Sure the EPL teams are not doing amazing but really poor?

Looking at the players and the amount of money they have I expect more from them.

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And Chelsea in 2012 were luckiest winner ever, parking the bus in their penalty area since the first whistle 

[Prpavi]

Mmm Chelsea and Mourinho hate in this thread is so delicious, gief moar pls

Oh and Diego Costa scoring again, beast.

[Swaggart]

My favourite thing to hear from fake football fans is that playing defensively is bullshit and that winning that way is not a "real win" as if every team has to attack for it to be legit. This is so asinine that it borders on retardation. Playing attacking football against a team with speed and a good attack is suicide unless you can match it.

It's called strategy, that's how weaker teams beat stronger teams. It's not luck, sure it may not be pretty but it's smart.

[Falka]

My favourite thing to hear from fake football fans is that playing defensively is bullshit and that winning that way is not a "real win" as if every team has to attack for it to be legit. This is so asinine that it borders on retardation. Playing attacking football against a team with speed and a good attack is suicide unless you can match it.

It's called strategy, that's how weaker teams beat stronger teams. It's not luck, sure it may not be pretty but it's smart.

"Sure, football is a tactical game, a game of attacking and defending but surely if teams continue to park the bus it will lessen the attraction of football and diminish the excitement we have come to expect with every game.
if this tactic (parking the bus) is going to be used every time a team visits Anfield or Old Trafford the excitement of the game will be lost, it would be hard to find any neutral watching the Saturday evening’s game who enjoyed it,"