FOOTBALL THREAD (the real football not that american crap)

[Bittersteel]

Chelsea and man city are both small clubs, amazing what money does in football.

And how do you judge who is a small club and who's a big club? Titles? Money? How long it's existed? Players? They're both big clubs, clearly, but you could argue for how long they've been big clubs.

[Osiris]

He is just a mad Leeds ute fan

[jtobiasm]

And how do you judge who is a small club and who's a big club? Titles? Money? How long it's existed? Players? They're both big clubs, clearly, but you could argue for how long they've been big clubs.

History, fan base and merchandise sold. Money doesn't make you a big club.


Look at last time chelsea were in the championship (2nd tier) they averaged 15k fans
Look at Leeds United last time they were in the 3RD tier of English football averaging 24k

[Leshma]

Leeds Utd used to be epic when Kewell, Fowler, Alan Smith, Lee Boyer, Viduka and Woodgate were playing together. Right now Leeds United is shite.

[Overdriven]

History, fan base and merchandise sold. Money doesn't make you a big club.


Look at last time chelsea were in the championship (2nd tier) they averaged 15k fans
Look at Leeds United last time they were in the 3RD tier of English football averaging 24k

Leeds are now a small club. History, means bugger all if you can't sustain it into the future.

Chelsea now are a big club. Its difficult to even get tickets and they are looking at expanding the stadium in the next few years because they have the fan base and can fill the seats week in week out. They win trophies and are one of the modern football power houses. Welcome to the 21st century.

[jtobiasm]

Leeds are now a small club. History, means bugger all if you can't sustain it into the future.

Leeds, Sheff Wednesday, Forest are all bigger than 3/4 of the teams in the Premiership

[darmaster]

this could make your eyes bleed a bit. the way the action has been built up, thought it couldn't be worse lol there's so much ignorance in this video

[njames89]

I watched my first ever game of football (soccer) this past week. My team scored 3 goals and butt-pummeled the Chivas USA team. Pretty fun. I think MLS may catch on seems to be building steam in North America. 

[Falka]

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[darmaster]

pls falka that is my team that lost

[Falka]

pls falka that is my team that lost

Hopefully this will cheer you up! 

Oh wait :P I support a club from better part of Milano, so...  :P

[Osiris]

Posted by: jtobiasm
History, fan base and merchandise sold. Money doesn't make you a big club.

Lets see if your non stop leeds are a bigger club bs has any basis in fact

Note i am an Arsenal fan not a Chelsea one. (don't really like Chelsea at all all most as much as i dislike Man U)

Also cant find any reliable merchandise sales over a long period only current ones which Chelsea clearly sell more of atm but im not counting because i cant find ones for when leeds were in the PL


Leeds Utd.

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Founded   1919
Total years spent in the top league = 57 years over 6 stays.
Leeds have the 10th highest avg attendance (Chelsea 5th) http://web.archive.org/web/20120111003541/http://nufc.com/2011-12html/attendance-all-time.html

3x first division champions (in the 70s)
1x Fa cup wins  (70s)
1x League cup wins (60s)
1x Charity Shield wins (60s)

(added finals and semis due to no wins)
1x Champions league semi final (2001)
1x European cup final (70s)
1x European cup semi final (70s)
1x Cup winners cup final (70s)

Chelsea

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Founded   10 March 1905
Total time spent in top division = 79 years over 7 stays
Chelsea have the fifth highest average all-time attendance in English football (leeds 10th)http://web.archive.org/web/20120111003541/http://nufc.com/2011-12html/attendance-all-time.html)

4x First Divison/Premier Leagues (50s, 00s,10s)
7x FA cup winners (60s, 90s, 00s, 10s)
4x League Cup winners (60s, 90s, 00s)
4x Charity Shields (50s, 00s)

1x Champions League win (2012)
1x European cup win (2013)
2x Cup winners cup wins (70s, 90s)
1x Super cup (98)

So if by History you mean only counting cups won before the 80s then yes Leeds has a stronger history (just) If you count history as well total History then im afraid Leeds lose in every category.

[jtobiasm]

Clearly you have no knowledge of football.

European Cup aka champions league 1975 , clear winners yet we got robbed
UEFA Cup Winners Cup runners up 1973, yet again we got robbed
Inter city fairs cup aka Europa league winners x2 runners up x1

You arsenal fans never do yourself any favors, oh yeah by the way, emirates is a stadium not a libary you snobby nose prick.

[Osiris]

ahh yes how silly of me. No one but Leeds ever gets robbed and those fairs cups clearly puts your history above and beyond Chelseas. And most normal guys generally tend to watch football from the 70s because that's when History actually counts. Anything after that is just bs right.

But yes i am a snobby nose prick because the facts don't back up your case... I should do myself a favour and bow down before the mighty leeds fans 


Please show me the evidence that shows leeds are bigger team instead of just chatting shit

[Gurnisson]

You can't lose if you don't concede a goal. Sure, it might be fun for the neutrals if your team "go for it" every match, but it's not always a wise choice. Compare Wigan and Stoke for example, both rather small clubs, but played completely different when they had Martinez and Pulis respectively. Pulis got Stoke finishing safely every season in the EPL, Wigan got battered quite often and are now struggling in the championship. They barely survived the seasons before as well.