Paramerion is OP

[Teeth]

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Paramerion has:
+1 length
+1 speed
+2 pierce
- 2665 cost
-1 difficulty
+ 0.1 weight

[Ujin]

REposting :

Either make it's price 9-10k  And / OR (8-9k then) decrease the speed by -1 , like i posted in the patch topic =).  Can also drop the pierce damage by 1 i suppose , but i'd keep the price within 7-9k then. Oh and yeah being a longer 1hander it can definitely be 13+ difficulty .

[Abay]

I think we must discuss long espada's sad story first 

[Ronin]

Can someone say what is wrong with long espada? What is changed in patch about it?

[Falka]

Can someone say what is wrong with long espada? What is changed in patch about it?

Nothing and that's the problem 

[Phew]

They must have intended the Paramerion to have 30 cut, and just made a database mistake or something. As it stands, it makes the other 1-slot 1h swords obsolete.

[Ujin]

They must have intended the Paramerion to have 30 cut, and just made a database mistake or something. As it stands, it makes the other 1-slot 1h swords obsolete.

30 cut ? lol Come on, no need to render it useless now. The cav sword has more cut than nordic loomed (36), there's no problem with  Para having same cut as nordic as long as they just nerf the speed and /or pierce + add price + difficulty.

[Phew]

30 cut ? lol Come on, no need to render it useless now. The cav sword has more cut than nordic loomed (36), there's no problem with  Para having same cut as nordic as long as they just nerf the speed and /or pierce + add price + difficulty.

With 30 cut it's balanced against the Italian, which until this patch was the most valuable 1h on market. It would trade 2 pierce and 1 speed for 5 reach, which is in line with other swords. Or they could also cut the speed to 96, which would make it somewhat balanced against the Arabian Cav (trade 1 cut and 2 reach for 4 thrust and 1 speed). Right now, it's broken though.

[Ujin]

Of course it is right now, i agree. I just think it should keep the cut to be on par with the best swords out there, in exchange for -1 or 2 speed. Should be 1k+ more expensive too if they only nerf the speed though.

 I'd do either -1 pierce and -1 speed  , increase in diff  and + ~1k in price (or keep it)
 
Or

 - 1 speed, increase in diff and + 2K and more in price

[Felix_Iron]

- 1 speed, increase in diff and + 2K and more in price

or +5K or 6K. just dont tuch dmg 
 

[Ujin]

or +5K or 6K. just dont tuch dmg 

I don't mind. I'm already overpaying for my cata just for roleplay style reasons. Your sarcasm sucks btw.

[Phew]

or +5K or 6K. just dont tuch dmg 
Ok. sorry. I'm quit

Price doesn't even factor into decisions for anyone that has been playing over a year; you can sell 1 loom point and finance upkeep on whatever gear you want. All a high price does it make the item inaccessible to new players.

The game is no fun when one item in a given type is vastly superior to all others. Remember like 2 years ago, when every single shielder was Side Sword+Huscarl? Soon it will be like that, but Paramerion+Hand Pavise.

[Ujin]

Price doesn't even factor into decisions for anyone that has been playing over a year; you can sell 1 loom point and finance upkeep on whatever gear you want. All a high price does it make the item inaccessible to new players.

The game is no fun when one item in a given type is vastly superior to all others. Remember like 2 years ago, when every single shielder was Side Sword+Huscarl? Soon it will be like that, but Paramerion+Hand Pavise.

Bullshit, i play for over 2 years, have 40k and pay 3k upkeep just for my cata, if i max all my items i can lose over 7k in one round. 

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

REposting :

Either make it's price 9-10k  And / OR (8-9k then) decrease the speed by -1 , like i posted in the patch topic =).  Can also drop the pierce damage by 1 i suppose , but i'd keep the price within 7-9k then. Oh and yeah being a longer 1hander it can definitely be 13+ difficulty .

So what you're suggesting is having it be slightly overpowered instead of quite a bit overpowered? Yeah, if they're gonna change it they should just balance it, not make it slightly amazing or really amazing.

[Phew]

Bullshit, i play for over 2 years, have 40k and pay 3k upkeep just for my cata, if i max all my items i can lose over 7k in one round.

Cav is a different story, upkeep-wise. I have always picked my 1h+shield+throwing gear without regard for cost, and I have always steadily made money. I'd say 75%+ of the player base would pay 2x the upkeep for a weapon with clearly overpowered stats.