Tanken I know you are saying they were moving 10K goods a week or more - but this is my question if they were doing that much - where were they getting the trade goods? Who would let them steal 10K goods like that from their fiefs - all our free trade fiefs and the other free trade fiefs in the snow combined couldn't handle that much (assuming the other 20-30 people using them didnt take any) and would be 25% taxed, plus going to all those various fiefs would take more than a week each time just to circulate around let alone get over to exchange with eu and then have to run around and find 10K S&D to sell (steal) in. Where are they supposedly get access get to tens of thousands of S&D without getting attacked every other day? Who supposedly financed 10K S&D a week in trade and for what purpose?
The fact that LL was able to freely attack people in Hospitaller lands and be not attacked by them is a pretty strong sign of where they are aligned (not to mention more than half of them show up for every fight agaisnt us and the the other people hospitaller is making war with). Waiting for them to strike at a bad random moment like astralis the other hospitaller vassal did to fimbrulvetyr doesn't seem that great an idea and allowing them a nice foothold for supporting hospitaller aggression near our lands is also not something to be desired. Also, I said 8 million not 12.
Honestly, I probably over-exaggerated the number of goods that were moved around in a week. It was most likely closer to 3-5k. Bulugur (while I had it) had a prosperity of +740 each day, and we met with Wolves in FPF territory every 10-14 days. That was the deal, and each time we would do it we'd gather anywhere from 400-800k. Do the math, it adds up quickly. The armies, as Flowers explained, were not anywhere near 12 million but I'm done defending this cause. It doesn't affect me either way, I just think that everyone at least needs to tip their hat to LL because they were small, and were forced to "restart" this strategus and they did it right. It's awesome, seeing them work that hard made me at times feel like it's a better idea in future strats to start very small and branch out from there, so good job Flowers, Slim, Doom, and Greatsage. You guys have done what larger factions have deemed incomprehensible.