Polearm spd rtng 92? 2H spd rtng still the same?

[Torp]

why the hell have the developers screwed the game up so much, taht only quarter staff is a biable option? i really dont get it! whyyyy!?

everything is broken except quarter staff!

[Teeth]

Yes because new shorter and slower stab animation and -7 pierce damage means 2H dodged the nerfing.

2H no longer have the lolstab, hafted polearms were balanced. Now 2H and Polearms now have similar damage, some 2H are faster, but with shorter reach, the stab speed is now the same, polearms got a bit more range on stab (didn't test it properly though). Sounds pretty balanced to me.

Melee and cav are obviously dead, archery is the way to go

New animation? My german gaysword alt still felt the same when stabbing. They didnt get -7, I believe german greatsword's default stab damage was 30, now 25. Which is a decrease in 5. Okay that is a big nerf, a much needed one.

My major annoyance with this patch are the higher difficulties for pretty much all polearms, without giving a stats reset. Now I have 2,5 million xp left to grind with only a warspear.

[Tungsten]

Maybe 3% of the 2h users use a nodachi. About 80 use either Danish or German greatsword. So 2h pretty much dodged the nerfing.

OH REALLY? I lost 9 pierce damage on my MW Sword of Tears. I laugh in your general direction you knockdown-spamming-lametard.

[Cyclopsided]

Long dagger is the way to go now. All the rest is broken.

Give it 30 pierce man, it doesn't block. Same with dagger [& other knives accordingly]. Shouldn't be nerfed in all categories.
"uses no slot up" is no reason to make it bad.

[Penitent]

All sword thrusts are pretty bad now actually.
I say return thrust damages, and nerf swing damage.  A thrust is almost always more deadly with a sword than a swing.

[Sauce]

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[Kelugarn]

Pole is not dead, pole is got, as it always has been  . Honestly I think the introduction of the long pike and the red tassel spear made poles even better.

[Ronan]

OMG Everythings broken!!! WTF are we going to play with now?!?! AHHH!!!



Ahhh shut up and either play or go away.

[Cyclopsided]

Swords can pierce just fine. When you halfsword them.
The 2h animation thrust sacrifices damage for length and speed. Pole thrust receives dmg at cost of speed and length. Pretty cut and dry.

Oh, and since everything got balanced; everything got balanced. [albeit bugs, bugs, bugs, bugs, etc]

[Banok]

well polearm stun and 2h stab still need fixing imo.

but take your time i'm mostly playing polearm atm

[Gorath]

- 2h users complaining that 2h is dead and pole is the way to go
- pole users complaining that pole is dead and 2h is the way to go

LOL.

Polearms are fine.  My polearm toon with his long awlpike and great long axe is rockin' and rollin' just like before.

2h WOULD be fine, once you guys see fit to give me my masterwork warcleaver back.  Until then my 2h character is quite literally dead since I don't have my 2her to use. 

[DrKronic]

HAR!

[Vibe]

Seems pretty balanced to me now.

[MouthnHoof]

Big blunt weapons are unbalanced as unbalanced can get. This is how they function. The only thing that makes then fairly fast at the same time is the long shaft and a spaced grip that is mechanically much more efficient than the 2H hilt grip.

Fists is now the way to go

[Murmillus_Prime]

2h swords are still going through blocks, 2h swords are still OP, "Can't kill phyrex in duel!!!!!!!!"