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Offline Shinimas

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Re: Polearm spd rtng 92? 2H spd rtng still the same?
« Reply #90 on: June 14, 2011, 03:37:48 pm »
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Oh I don't know... maybe Elegant Poleaxe, German Poleaxe, Great Long Axe, Poleaxe, Bec de Corbin. Are these enough?

They all come with downsides. Speed and factual reach. Plus polearms are worse than 2H for facehugging due to different sweetspot allocation.


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Re: Polearm spd rtng 92? 2H spd rtng still the same?
« Reply #91 on: June 14, 2011, 04:14:30 pm »
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This is a false thread, polearms are stronger than two hands, basically between the stun and the fact that the poleaxes are better at more stuff (great thrusts and cuts, anti horse and antishield at same time)

Look at my stats on nacrpg.net, my ten heirloom two hander gets 3.09, my polearm gets 3.27 kpd (and has one heirloom and is leveling, 2hander is level 32

People avoid the myriad advantages polearms have (great #noshield# weapons, awesome longass support weapons, shield usable wpf weapons, horse rear, strongest antishield/antihorse all in one poleaxes, inherent stun effect due to highest average weapon weight


Twohand should not be just easy to shoot to death version of polearms without horse rear, if anyone has been playin g two hand u would know we've gone through more major nerfs than anything

« Last Edit: June 14, 2011, 04:16:54 pm by DrKronic »
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Re: Polearm spd rtng 92? 2H spd rtng still the same?
« Reply #92 on: June 15, 2011, 06:40:17 pm »
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Two-Handed
- ???

Polearm
- More damage. (what pole are you talking about?)
- Better thrust. (OMG you cant be serious you LolstaberxD )
- Bonus against shields. (helpful against 2hs ?)
- Hit stun. Stagger effect when hit. (oh yeah i see, evry time i hit i have 1min to hit the poor stuned guy over and over 8D)
- Weapon stun, polearms are generally heavier. (ye its the weight, neither the length nor the speed. CLEAR :D )
- Horse stopping thrust. (evryone can pick up a staff/pike to stop a horse, but wait on duel you fight horses in major right? D: )
- Cavalry equipment - lances. (evryone can use lances but lancers need to set points on riding. so we cant tank us like 2h with IF)
- Anti-cav and support - pikes. Oh and lets not forget that you can thrust-curve around teammates and overhead through teammates on enemies. (ye Mr. Lolstaber the CURVE xD)

Doesn't require a rocket-scientist to understand that two-handed is vastly inferior to polearms.

You dont seem to be a rocket-scientist more  a 2h lobbyist. Very weak your "hard facts".
Dont fear the balance Mr. Lolstab!


Im killing you without using block what type of balance u want ? Like arming 2h takes 10 seconds ?
Everyclass got something OP which is not OP against OP =)

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Re: Polearm spd rtng 92? 2H spd rtng still the same?
« Reply #93 on: June 15, 2011, 09:03:44 pm »
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Fun fact: Lanic0r is a below average shitty duelist and is just pissed because he's unable to take out 2h demigod duelists with his triple loomed long hafted knobbed mace he expected a knockdown and free kill from everytime he eventually hits his enemy.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2011, 09:04:46 pm by wayyyyyne »

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Re: Polearm spd rtng 92? 2H spd rtng still the same?
« Reply #94 on: June 15, 2011, 09:21:03 pm »
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Fun fact: Lanic0r is a below average shitty duelist and is just pissed because he's unable to take out 2h demigod duelists with his triple loomed long hafted knobbed mace he expected a knockdown and free kill from everytime he eventually hits his enemy.
good point of view for a backpedaller 2h user =)

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Re: Polearm spd rtng 92? 2H spd rtng still the same?
« Reply #95 on: June 15, 2011, 10:05:21 pm »
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Lanic0r is an average duelist. He's using an unbalanced weapon, goddamn.

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Re: Polearm spd rtng 92? 2H spd rtng still the same?
« Reply #96 on: June 16, 2011, 01:19:51 am »
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2h and polearms require completely different styles, they are comparable but in duels 2h is clearly superior. However a smart polearmer can do just as well as a 2h in a duel if he utilizes good holds and footwork. Because of the hit stun, polearms can get a free second shot if they play their cards right and get a hit, but most polearms are dumb spammers and then whine because they can't outspam a 2h.

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Re: Polearm spd rtng 92? 2H spd rtng still the same?
« Reply #97 on: June 16, 2011, 07:52:14 am »
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i are smart pole spammer

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Re: Polearm spd rtng 92? 2H spd rtng still the same?
« Reply #98 on: June 16, 2011, 08:18:19 am »
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Strength of polearm: Delayed attack. (look like spaming)
Strength of sword: Feinting. (look like spaming)
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Re: Polearm spd rtng 92? 2H spd rtng still the same?
« Reply #99 on: June 16, 2011, 11:25:05 am »
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I've played both 2hander and polearm .
I am not a good duelist compared to other skillful players i see here , i consider myself as average player.
I try to duel and learn as much as i can and so far i can tell you these:
2hander class as a sword wielder has much more potentials on duels.Animation of attack and block is helping to confuse your opponent very much if you combine your feints,turns and footwork.
When you block to cancel your swing and start swinging from other side(Feinting) , you can barely see that block if you are using a 2handed weapon but if you are using a polearm it is obvious that you block so it is easily understandable that you canceled your swing and you are going to swing from other side which completely doesn't confuse your opponent so he/she will either attack you or block your 2nd swing so, polearm animation is not feint friendly .
Here is the problem:
Polearm users are trying to use techniques which work on 2handed weapons.
Feinting works very good on 2handed weapons and it is a good way to confuse your opponents mind but it doesn't work on polearms.
People keep trying to feint with polearms and when they fail,they blame 2h as OP.
I suggest trying these instead of feinting with polearms:
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I think polearm is a very good class but harder to learn how to use on 1v1 situations . In battle if you hit an enemy with a polearm there are 2 outcomes
1-You kill him
2-Since you stun him,your teammate will finish him off.
Yes 2handed swords out reach polearms but this is natural i think.
I see no unbalance problem between 2h and polearm.
As i said,the only problem is polearm users are trying to fight like 2handers.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2011, 11:27:40 am by koyama »

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Re: Polearm spd rtng 92? 2H spd rtng still the same?
« Reply #100 on: June 16, 2011, 03:18:51 pm »
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Good post Koyama. +1 for you. :)

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Re: Polearm spd rtng 92? 2H spd rtng still the same?
« Reply #101 on: June 17, 2011, 05:49:48 pm »
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im a 2hander and i play duel quite a lot i think im at the average or maybe a bit above average skill level.  somehow i find polearm feints harder to block than 2hands or other weapon maybe because of the animation.. making me feel dizzy sometimes -_-
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