Polearm spd rtng 92? 2H spd rtng still the same?

[Lanic0r]

I want you (developing team only) to explain the reduce of speed on knobbed- and spiked mace!

How does it come that my heirloomed Knobbed mace is now slower than the normal version on patch 0.210, inflicts less (4 points) blunt damage and is unballanced?
And the best weapon, THE 2hs still have the same spd rtng 92 and swing damage?
Plz give me a reason!
I have chosen the knobbed mace bacause its the only alternative to 2hr (for example GERMAN GREATSWORD) and to avoid being a 2h coward without ballz.
Give me the point!

[Techno]

Nodachi speed and length went down.

[Teeth]

Nodachi speed and length went down.

Maybe 3% of the 2h users use a nodachi. About 80 use either Danish or German greatsword. So 2h pretty much dodged the nerfing.

[Rhaelys]

Maybe 3% of the 2h users use a nodachi. About 80 use either Danish or German greatsword. So 2h pretty much dodged the nerfing.

Check thrust damage on all 2Hs, then come back and say that again. Not that I don't approve.

[Lanic0r]

Maybe 3% of the 2h users use a nodachi. About 80 use either Danish or German greatsword. So 2h pretty much dodged the nerfing.

Right the same thoughts. I wonder whether the developers themselfs are Greatswordwhatever cowards?
AND THE FUCK, Rhealys DONT BE SILLY AND POINT TO THE RIDICOULOUS THRUST NERF! THATS THE ONLY NERF compared to OTHERS

[cmp]

- 2h users complaining that 2h is dead and pole is the way to go
- pole users complaining that pole is dead and 2h is the way to go

LOL.

[Thucydides]

me and my Great Long Axe shit on your anal probe weapons

[IG_Saint]

- 2h users complaining that 2h is dead and pole is the way to go
- pole users complaining that pole is dead and 2h is the way to go

LOL.

Next up: pole and 2h are dead, 1h is the way to go thread.

[Punisher]

Maybe 3% of the 2h users use a nodachi. About 80 use either Danish or German greatsword. So 2h pretty much dodged the nerfing.

Yes because new shorter and slower stab animation and -7 pierce damage means 2H dodged the nerfing.

2H no longer have the lolstab, hafted polearms were balanced. Now 2H and Polearms now have similar damage, some 2H are faster, but with shorter reach, the stab speed is now the same, polearms got a bit more range on stab (didn't test it properly though). Sounds pretty balanced to me.

Next up: pole and 2h are dead, 1h is the way to go thread.

Melee and cav are obviously dead, archery is the way to go

[Espu]

Archery is dead, slot change killed it. Throwing is the way to go.

[Fasader]

Throwing is dead, can't pick up missed shots. Xbow is obviously the way to go.

[Tydeus]

- 2h users complaining that 2h is dead and pole is the way to go
- pole users complaining that pole is dead and 2h is the way to go

LOL.

Normally I'm the cynical bastard who loves to point out these things, but when I look at numbers, I see a theoretical imbalance. Not only that, but I haven't had a single person who can form a coherent argument provide to me any reason as to how The German Poleaxe and Elegant Poleaxe aren't blatantly better than the German/Danish Greatswords.

Elegant Poleaxe
difficulty: 16
speed rating: 92
shield width: 132
thrust damage: 26 pierce
swing damage: 39 cut
weapon length: 132
Can't use on horseback

Bonus against Shield

15,634
German Greatsword
difficulty: 15
speed rating: 92
shield width: 123
thrust damage: 25 pierce
swing damage: 38 cut
weapon length: 123
Can't use on horseback

Secondary Mode

15,192

I would ask that everyone, the developers especially, try to look more carefully at the people who are posting "x is terrible, y is better than x now". Remember these are blanket statements but most of the time people are only talking about one weapon specifically.

Properly conveying one's thoughts, most people are terrible at it.

Edit: While I'm going to leave this here, I just started playing after the hotfix and pole thrust is back to how it was pre-patch. This changes things significantly.

[Kafein]

Polearm maces were really broken (high damage, speed, knockdown and reasonable range) in the hands of some.

All these speed comparisons are just showing that you should not be able to be so fast as you could be v0.212, with mw weapon + dedicated spam build. I think it's better now with the patch.

[Lanic0r]

Polearm maces were really broken (high damage, speed, knockdown and reasonable range) in the hands of some.

All these speed comparisons are just showing that you should not be able to be so fast as you could be v0.212, with mw weapon + dedicated spam build. I think it's better now with the patch.

No its my badluck, evry weapon i have ever used had been nerfed. Why me OMG, its ONLY ME I THINK xD
No, seriously. I need awnsers not "the way to go".
I dont care about throwing weapons because its just a fun weapon on public. I dont care Xbows because its just good for public. Its about Strategus gentleman.
And best thing is, construction site uses 3 slots. How do we built any catapults in Strategus. Sacrefice 75 slots for it? I mean its multiplyer 3 on slots now.
German elegant ULTRA AXE only got 1 point more on swing? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH RAPED

[Paul]

Long dagger is the way to go now. All the rest is broken.