Ranged gime cRPG back plz :/

[Molly]

Infantry are the round decider of this mod. Along with cav, who mostly profit from ignorance of other players, they are the most powerful factor in this game. In comparison ranged is on an all time low in terms of significance towards the outcome of a round.

However we will nerf ranged further. Afaik after the end of WSE2 beta and with the installation of the WSE2 clientside endlösung, we plan to add wind(with a fixed vector per map or round) to the game that deviates the path from projectiles significantly, making aiming more skillbased.

Will this affect throwers too?
We're already pretty screwed. 7PT, need easy at least 3 throwing spears to get medium armor down. Considering the randomness of throwing... pff. Show us some love!

[the real god emperor]

However we will nerf ranged further. Afaik after the end of WSE2 beta and with the installation of the WSE2 clientside endlösung, we plan to add wind(with a fixed vector per map or round) to the game that deviates the path from projectiles significantly, making aiming more skillbased.

I love that wind thing but dont nerf anything moar please it makes every class disgusting

[Prpavi]

Infantry are the round decider of this mod. Along with cav, who mostly profit from ignorance of other players, they are the most powerful factor in this game. In comparison ranged is on an all time low in terms of significance towards the outcome of a round.

However we will nerf ranged further. Afaik after the end of WSE2 beta and with the installation of the WSE2 clientside endlösung, we plan to add wind(with a fixed vector per map or round) to the game that deviates the path from projectiles significantly, making aiming more skillbased.

You will make archery more skill based thats cool, you call it a nerf i think its long overdue, but will you buff dmg or projectile speed because of it?

[Paul]

At least in my model I'd leave out throwers from this effect because of their high projectile weight. When not doing so, their low projectile speed would make the wind influence too big.

[Prpavi]

Will this affect throwers too?
We're already pretty screwed. 7PT, need easy at least 3 throwing spears to get medium armor down. Considering the randomness of throwing... pff. Show us some love!

LoL be quiet about throwing its OP as fuck font make em look into it they gonna nerf the shit out od it

[the real god emperor]

Dont nerf ranged just make them run slower!

[Molly]

LoL be quiet about throwing its OP as fuck font make em look into it they gonna nerf the shit out od it

Yea, right. I invest 7 points in PT, need at least 3 hits to take down a medium guy with a high upkeep, often repairs itself, weapon.

You put 7 points in PS, grab your MW Flamberge and kill everything around with max 2 hits.

Yea, throwing is totally OP. Slow-motion projectile speed which is easily dodged, I need to get in melee range to up my chances to even hit somebody and then see a tincan walk away with all my ammo in his legs, arms and "neck". Totally OP... 

[Grumbs]

Infantry are the round decider of this mod. Along with cav, who mostly profit from ignorance of other players, they are the most powerful factor in this game. In comparison ranged is on an all time low in terms of significance towards the outcome of a round.

However we will nerf ranged further. Afaik after the end of WSE2 beta and with the installation of the WSE2 clientside endlösung, we plan to add wind(with a fixed vector per map or round) to the game that deviates the path from projectiles significantly, making aiming more skillbased.

Your conclusions about round effectiveness for ranged are pretty inaccurate. I'd rather have one Bagge (or other skilled ranged guy) sometimes than a group of melee players. These guys rape at range and then when it comes down to melee can carry on kicking ass. But more skill based aiming can only be a good thing so +1

You have to consider the fun of the people playing too. Ranged is only fun for the ranged guys..melee is fun for both combatants as its an ongoing pvp fight between 2 or more players. Ranged is one sided mostly and point & click style fps mechanics. These guys can still do well when it comes to melee, especially crossbowers. Theres a guy with 150+ ping on EU1 who consistently clutches rounds as a crossbower. He'll be pewpewing all round then finish off in melee

[Grumbs]

Yea, right. I invest 7 points in PT, need at least 3 hits to take down a medium guy with a high upkeep, often repairs itself, weapon.

You put 7 points in PS, grab your MW Flamberge and kill everything around with max 2 hits.

Yea, throwing is totally OP. Slow-motion projectile speed which is easily dodged, I need to get in melee range to up my chances to even hit somebody and then see a tincan walk away with all my ammo in his legs, arms and "neck". Totally OP... 

You're comparing something like melee that you can 100% negate damage with in a pvp fight, with something like throwing which can do damage at short range (just outside melee range) with 1 or 2 hit kills that relys 100% on the throwers skill and RNG. Theres only so much you can do with dodging especially at that range, and if you get in melee range then the actual pvp starts and the thrower can pull out a 2 hander.

Melee wpf is pretty worthless after a point..100 throwing wpf (or more) isn't going to stop you have all the melee wpf you need, and 3 or 4 points in throwing isn't going to stop your build being nearly pure melee based. Most of them wear plenty of armour. Pure throwers can still do fine in melee since its player skill based and everyone can negate 100% of melee damage

[Prpavi]

Yea, right. I invest 7 points in PT, need at least 3 hits to take down a medium guy with a high upkeep, often repairs itself, weapon.

You put 7 points in PS, grab your MW Flamberge and kill everything around with max 2 hits.

Yea, throwing is totally OP. Slow-motion projectile speed which is easily dodged, I need to get in melee range to up my chances to even hit somebody and then see a tincan walk away with all my ammo in his legs, arms and "neck". Totally OP... 

dunno m8 u must be doing something wrong then, i played pure thrower 2 gens ago 21/18 build with 7PT all wpf in throwing and regular Heavy Throwing Axes and i could 2/3 hit most of the guys (except the str tincans).

I found it to be most relaxing but quite OP, risks are minimal, rewards are huge and you need no skill what so ever.

[Tzar]

I think Archery is balanced just fine as it is now. The weight increase killed most of the lame counter strike kiting shit that took place imho that was what made archery OP an terrible broken  .

An lol at the ones saying Throwing is OP...

I think its the amount of archers that pisses people off.. But i cant blame most people goin Archery since inf melee combat have been slowed down and nerfed so much that people find archery more fast paced an exciting..

Hell... i even went thrower just to spice things up a bit.. 

[slimpyman]

dude, youre not the only one who gets shot... You should carry an xbow to counter. quit being babies.

[bagge]

plz giev it back crpgay to poogar. he sad

[Cepeshi]

[Hunter_the_Honourable]

Will this affect throwers too?
We're already pretty screwed. 7PT, need easy at least 3 throwing spears to get medium armor down. Considering the randomness of throwing... pff. Show us some love!

Try telling dood that throwing lances are useless and weak.....1 lance and he takes id say about 90% of people down who are not in tincan stuff. Plus throwing lances are fast, spammable and seem to have a small polestun still.