Current Archery Nerfs

[Templar_Steevee]

IMO at present best archer builds are with 5 or 6 pd (depends what bow you like) and it's better to be more accurate and a bit faster, than have a little bit more dmg.

I still think archery is over-nerfed

Over-nerfed, probably, but I'm still able to be almost on the top of scoreboard and kill many enemies. Try to get accostumed to it, it's not so hard...

[Arrowblood]

All old Archers do still well so its fine.

[agweber]

...and extremely unvariable.

How many different viable archery builds are there that can top the scoreboard?

[ObiWanKejoshi]

Other than the standard 18/21 build, i actually like 21/18 with 4 PS 7 PD 6 Ath/WM and 150 Archery WPF, 50 1H WPF (55 1H WPF and 7 PS on lvl 31). I'm currently using that build with a Rus bow, 1 stack of Bodkins and any 1H weapon. It's pretty nice since most people don't expect an archer to actually hit hard with melee weapons. Obvious drawbacks are the slightly reduced accuracy and the reduced amount of arrows you can carry.
I don't really top the scoreboard with this build, but I'm frequently in the upper third.

I've also tried 30/9 with 10 PD 7 PS 3 Ath/WM and 130 Archery WPF with my STF char, but haven't played it enough decide if it's viable for more than a few rounds. One thing i did notice though is the reduced draw speed.

[Adamar]

All old Archers do still well so its fine.

No.

[Arrowblood]

No.

I dont even see you playing atm 

[Templar_Steevee]

How many different viable archery builds are there that can top the scoreboard?

For archer it's really hard to top scoreboard with current pointing system. Easist way to get to top is beeing a shielder or cav (imo especially 1h+shield), but I topped before I make a retirement

I'm not one of the best c-rpg archers, so almost every archer can be deadly when he will think a bit

[Elindor]

Can someone sumarize the latest archery changes?

[Adamar]

Slower movement speed and slightly slower arrows, I think.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Can someone sumarize the latest archery changes?

Archery was made slightly less gay. 

[bigsean]

A high AGI archer is less viable now, more than 3 points in ath won't help much unless you drop your bow and run. Best to have a high STR archer, more damage but you sacrifice some accuracy. I think increasing arrow weight is just a bandaid fix, it completely crushes pure archers and even if this is intended (which is dumb), you have a bunch of people with heirloomed longbows and rusbows who are forced to rework their gear and attributes with no free respec. I also think the weakest arrows weighing the most is the dumbest thing ever. I used to choose tatar vs bodkin based on the general armor of players in the server, if I wanted to target horses or archers, etc. Now it's just bodkins all day er' day since they weigh the least.

[Templar_Steevee]

I think increasing arrow weight is just a bandaid fix, it completely crushes pure archers and even if this is intended (which is dumb), you have a bunch of people with heirloomed longbows and rusbows who are forced to rework their gear and attributes with no free respec.

I can't agree with you. Pure archers are still deadly, with my bulit from lvl 28. Higher lvl is better, but it's normal. Good archers like Arrowblood, Nebun, Bagge, Blackbow, JohanE (or whathever to write it, sorry, if i make a mistake), Tiborur, some other good archers and even me have no problem to kill lot's of ppl.

Only thing to do is change your playstyle a bit. No more kitting, so you have to put more attention on positioning yourself, not going wildly with melee. Just think more about what are you going to do...

[Adamar]

I can't agree with you. Pure archers are still deadly, with my bulit from lvl 28. Higher lvl is better, but it's normal. Good archers like Arrowblood, Nebun, Bagge, Blackbow, JohanE (or whathever to write it, sorry, if i make a mistake), Tiborur, some other good archers and even me have no problem to kill lot's of ppl.

Only thing to do is change your playstyle a bit. No more kitting, so you have to put more attention on positioning yourself, not going wildly with melee. Just think more about what are you going to do...

...also, if you're the kind of archer who wears armor, drop it, or you'll be the slowest crap in game. And it's now higly unlikely that anyone new will stick to the class. GJ chadz.

[WITCHCRAFT]

Yes, you only benefit from up to Power Draw 10 (if you are using the difficulty 6 bows, less if not). But due to the wpf curve, 15 power draw has LESS of a penalty than 10 powerdraw does. So you have the same damage but less wpf penalty.

But with 3 agi you are kinda fucked if a cav looks at you wrong.

[Templar_Steevee]

...also, if you're the kind of archer who wears armor, drop it, or you'll be the slowest crap in game. And it's now higly unlikely that anyone new will stick to the class. GJ chadz.

I am wearing armor with total weigth at border of wpf penalty wich is 10. That's true that I'm slow like turtle and I can't run out from almost anyone with 5 ath (maybe from some str cruschers). If you still want to be an archer you have to get accostumed to it like other archers do.

All old Archers do still well so its fine.

I can add only one to this sentecnce: good archers.

Maybe you just fougth that you were good and only thing wich lets you to own ppl were kitting?

Lots players GTXted from beeing an archer because of this nerf and change their profession. You want to be almost unreachable from melee - go HA or more gay HX or just get accostumed to changes like after every patch archers have to, because olmost every one is nerfing archery in some way.