Varyag's testimony on the current state of cRPG

[Fluffy_Muffin]

Thats just a nostalgic view trough pink glasses. The fact is that this system is much more user friendly.

[Tears of Destiny]

Heh. People acting as if Retirement is some god-given right, earned through blood sweat and tears, that makes you a better player. Those of us with high generations played a lot and retired a lot. That's the end of it. We didn't do something incredible to achieve our gens. This gen elitism is bullshit, from the mouth of a high gen player. I would support a change to the retirement system that didn't clearly favor people with higher gens. At the very least 0% change exp gain per retirement would make sense, IMO. People shouldn't be able to retire faster once they retire.

A clear voice of reason. +1 for you, good sir.

[Kafein]

Thats just a nostalgic view trough pink glasses. The fact is that this system is much more user friendly.

Ho... you want user-friendliness ?

I have other games that might suit you better, like : "push this button as many times as you can", you know...

If you can get everything now now now, it's failed. If you want everything now now now, you failed, or you are still a kid. There is no game where there is no frustration, the bad creates the good... It's just human.

[Tears of Destiny]

Ho... you want user-friendliness ?

I have other games that might suit you better, like : "push this button as many times as you can", you know...

If you can get everything now now now, it's failed. If you want everything now now now, you failed, or you are still a kid. There is no game where there is no frustration, the bad creates the good... It's just human.

There is a difference between user friendly and instant gratification. Stop using absurd twists for arguements ffs.

[Fluffy_Muffin]

You made a story out of my two sentences, perhaps i was a bit vauge.

Ho... you want user-friendliness ?

Yes

I have other games that might suit you better, like : "push this button as many times as you can", you know...

I didnt mean easy gameplay i meant an easier start, less peasent time and more time when you fell like you can make a difference etc.

If you can get everything now now now, it's failed. If you want everything now now now, you failed, or you are still a kid. There is no game where there is no frustration, the bad creates the good... It's just human.

I have what i  need after a fair ammount of gameplay ( mw danish and  lordly gloves) and i probably wont retire next get, ill try to hit 32. And when i do that ill just try to improve my skills in duel servers, play tournaments, play with my buddies and have fun. Maybe roll a few alts, play strat if it ever comes out.

There is plenty of stuff to do in this game besides grind. I dont know why people think the game is over when you hit high gens and get your mw items.

About the frustration part, tbh this game is one of the most if not the most frustrating game i have ever played. (especialy at the beggining) And i was realy frustrated at my start because i started a week or so before the big patch and i couldnt do anything but die. Thats what i meant by more user friendly - you get the feeling that you matter faster

[[ptx]]

People that say they "worked" for their high level/gen pre-patch (implying cRPG is all work, no fun) should get slapped across the face real hard.

[ManOfWar]

People that say they "worked" for their high level/gen pre-patch (implying cRPG is all work, no fun) should get slapped across the face real hard.

At times it seems like work, especially at lower levels...

[[ptx]]

Then perhaps it is time to take a break. I know i've taken one.

[Momo]

People that say they "worked" for their high level/gen pre-patch (implying cRPG is all work, no fun) should get slapped across the face real hard.

Yeah it's not fun when you steal all of your equips.  I WORKED for them not U! So if I want to crush heads with my 3x heirloomed mace I'll just crush heads cos I deserve it! 

[ManOfWar]

Then perhaps it is time to take a break. I know i've taken one.

I havent retired in weeks, i just did a day or 2 ago, the low level grinding is the absolute worst since you cant rly do anything, there needs to be a super speedy level up to lvl 20 or something- also im gen 4 now

I know a lot of people turn away from crpg due to the initial grind

[RagnarLodbroke]

Then perhaps it is time to take a break. I know i've taken one.

PTX!!!!!

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how did u get ur beastmaster signartur? me want one!

[Gnjus]

Does playing at work count as "working hard" ?

[Jacko]

...Or hardly working?


 

[Strider]

I agree fully with Veryag. I too played crpg since it first came out. I remember the dedication, intenseness, and core skill of the players and their characters. But now there is nothing to keep us wanting to play. We can do anything with our characters much too easily. Change from from a fully heirloomed archer to a fully heirloomed xbowmen in 2 months. There is no dedication to build your character up to your desired skills. You cannot possibly become a 24 str, 24 agi 2Her or do any other epic dream build because the cap is at lvl 35. (almost impossible to get to anyways). At crpg's first times I saw the most skilled people with sweet gear and skills and I desired to be like them. Now there is no desire to play crpg.

[ManOfWar]

I agree fully with Veryag. I too played crpg since it first came out. I remember the dedication, intenseness, and core skill of the players and their characters. But now there is nothing to keep us wanting to play. We can do anything with our characters much too easily. Change from from a fully heirloomed archer to a fully heirloomed xbowmen in 2 months. There is no dedication to build your character up to your desired skills. You cannot possibly become a 24 str, 24 agi 2Her or do any other epic dream build because the cap is at lvl 35. (almost impossible to get to anyways). At crpg's first times I saw the most skilled people with sweet gear and skills and I desired to be like them. Now there is no desire to play crpg.

By jov your right, I do remember a time when I was like that..