Is archery bugged atm?

[Cup1d]

this system will just encourage builds like this:

Level 34 (71 139 224 xp)

Strength: 30
Agility: 15
Hit points: 71
Skills to attributes: 12
Ironflesh: 3
Power Strike: 0
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 5
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 10
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 5
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 153
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

It's not a true horsearcher. It's just mobile antiinfantry platform. And no - you do not need any HA point if your horse stand still. And yes - even on a sumpter horse you'll be faster than on foot with 12 athletics. All you need is 2 riding to be mobile.

Sorry guys, new system is crap.

[Sagar]

Think about next step of archers nerfing. Higher riding - reduce wpf.

[Cup1d]

Think about next step of archers nerfing. Higher riding - reduce wpf.

As I said before - 2 riding is enough to be faster than any infantry character.

[Sagar]

Lets just wait to see final words of dev team. I'm sure there will be more changes these days. 

[Cris]

From that HA information I just see that sacrificing PD for higher HA means even less damage and still crappy accuracy due to -1 HA points anyway....Oh, and we'll suck on foot too if the -wpp penalty carries off the horse. Thanks...

I understand the need to not make HA overly attractive, but the -HA point is a bit too much, regardless of it being like that pre/post patch

[Kafein]

I can see lots of archers 1 or 2 shotting everything in the near future in my crystal ball. They are going to be less irritating, but certainly more powerful than before, and will have a greater influence on the outcome of rounds.

Now is the time to make the heaviest (as in, the turn-you-into-an-anemic-turtle) plate armors resistant to arrows, to introduce a tradeoff against medium weight armors, which are pretty much the nobrainer minmaxing choice of the moment. That would require a lot of fiddling with the engine afaik, if possible at all with the current WSE, but would make the game a lot more realistic as well as increasing variety by making equipment that is currently weak in melee stronger against archers (and maybe throwers ?).

[Blueberry Muffin]

Does ath effect wm across the board? Or just with ranged? Cause being a ninja would suck right now if so.

[Rhekimos]

Does ath effect wm across the board? Or just with ranged? Cause being a ninja would suck right now if so.

Only archery.

[Blueberry Muffin]

Arbalest op. No reduction in wpf, no skill requirements, can be effective in melee. Fix it someone, buff archers.

Thats the problem with balancing, too much nerfing, not enough buffing.

[Gristle]

I don't like it when ANYONE outruns me, so please add this WPF nerf to all classes. That would at least be fair. I dare anyone to make an argument against a blanket ATH nerf that wouldn't also work as an argument against nerfing just bow WPF.

I don't even use a bow and I think this is retarded.

[Thedric]

I like it, at least now archers will be forced to stay with the main group. No more assassin-archers running off on their own, killing shielders 1 on 1.

[CrazyCracka420]

Dumbest.  Shit.  Ever.  And there's been a lot of dumb-ass nerfs in c-rpg. 

Coming from someone who's bane is archers, it should tell you something about the "fix".

People talk about "kiting" like it's a problem.  The problem is the people chasing the kiting archers, the people who are running around by themselves and not fighting with their teammates.  These people are the problem, not a class doing what it's supposed to do.  Don't like kiting archers?  Don't go running after them.

That's like telling horseman are a problem because after they make a charge, they run out of melee reach and do it all over again.

So glad Chivalry came out, maybe you'll see me in strat battles.

[Teeth]

Arbalest op. No reduction in wpf, no skill requirements, can be effective in melee. Fix it someone, buff archers.

Thats the problem with balancing, too much nerfing, not enough buffing.

Archers do 30-50% damage to me and arbalests do 50-60%, I think archers easily have triple fire rate.

[Keshian]

aLSO ATHLETICS PLAYS A LARGE PART IN ARCHER DUELS AND PROPERLY DODGING ENEMY ARROWS.  tHIS BASICALLY MAKES ALLA RCHERS AN EASY STANDING TARGET FOR XBOWERS FOR NO REASOON EVEN WHEN NOT SHOOTING.  fuck capslock!

[Iymore]

Drop atl when you equip a bow?