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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #135 on: November 01, 2012, 05:52:52 am »
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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #136 on: November 01, 2012, 06:34:59 am »
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From this formula:
[19:49] <@Shik> new: (15*PD - 1.5^PD)


It seems that 8PD will maximize effectiveness. 9 PD is only slightly better (both around 92-96), and 8 will help get you more WM, etc.
24/15 seems pretty nice, 24/18 for high levels. I need someone else to confirm whether 15 agi builds are viable on horse. If so, one can invest in riding and horse archery instead of athletics. It will be interesting to see how much damage we take with unbugged archery.

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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #137 on: November 01, 2012, 07:17:45 am »
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That formula (15PD-1.5^PD instead of 14*PD) also reduced our damage. You take out both our wpf and damage rate. I can't understand the reason. We are not the most killers in a game or with the most score. If you want to nerf something, nerf 2h.

Do the same to melee people: iron flesh and/or power strike shall reduce wpf. Also use the same kind of formula to nerf melee hits.

Currently it makes no sense to play crpg as an archer. This kiting whining is total nonsense. I could never outrun a 2h guy in this game ever with my 8 ath (and I'm level 33). In order to kite, I have to run, turn back and shoot in a small time period. The chaser should be too haeavily armored to not to catch me. And in that case, my arrows can't do shit to that armor anyway.

Especially when a guy with shield moves directly towards an archer, the poor archer has nothing to do but to run and hope that he has melee comrades around to save his ass. Now you say, anyone with a shield should be able to kill any archer he sees fit.

So much hatred for archers from devs make me feel like stop playing. What you have done is not rational; we are here to have fun and as I saw it everyone was having fun (including the melee) before you came and screwed us. Just because you are the dev team, you can just come and say "let's try this formula and see what happens". We spent days and months in this mod. We deserve more respect than this.

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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #138 on: November 01, 2012, 07:20:42 am »
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i played with 10 pd build hornbow 0 ath, i must say this far its pretty unrewarding.. yes even i rufio the qqer majoris of archery says this might be a bad step in crpg. i pretty much think for game  ballance il go with our straw hatted hero, and say just make bows unrealisticly heavy. and keep the rest as it was...

Even QQfio the window cleaner agrees...and I agree with tenne on this one. if you want us to stop kitting just make it weight more since we will be forced into a melee confrontation. My lvl 33 build will have 6 PS once I get to lvl 34....I was going to go into melee more but you've just obliterated my build.... 70,604,525 exp and only 10,268,615 to go  :cry:

We spent days and months in this mod.


Try over 2 years.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2012, 07:26:00 am by Adalwulf »

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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #139 on: November 01, 2012, 07:31:41 am »
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Soo, how much does ath reduce wpf per point?

Nvm got it.



« Last Edit: November 01, 2012, 07:36:49 am by Havoco »
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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #140 on: November 01, 2012, 08:47:42 am »
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Nice so instead on archers spamming now they two shot...

How about we play a melee game...
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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #141 on: November 01, 2012, 09:26:37 am »
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if you consider respec that would be retarded for all the guys that bought a respec and you must give everyone a free respec other wise it is not fair

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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #142 on: November 01, 2012, 09:28:05 am »
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It's death by a 1000 cuts for archery, every patch brings a new nerf.  If you don't want archery in the game, just take it out already.
i hope they will  8-)

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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #143 on: November 01, 2012, 09:31:14 am »
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What will I dOoooOoooOooo, for an archer nerf. Dumdumdumm
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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #144 on: November 01, 2012, 09:46:21 am »
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Wait, I'm getting a vision from the future!

...archery change nerfs athletics...encourages heavier str archers...
...players will forget archer accuracy & movement were nerfed...will only notice taking lots of damage...
...more crying will ensure... rage posts about getting 2 shot....calls to nerf archery damage...

You can take that to the fucking bank.
Nice so instead on archers spamming now they two shot...

How about we play a melee game...

LOL???
how about the devs quit sucking the melee cock and leave archers the way they were
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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #145 on: November 01, 2012, 10:57:32 am »
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LOL???
how about the devs quit sucking the melee cock and leave archers the way they were

How about the devs make range as challenging as melee.
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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #146 on: November 01, 2012, 11:04:19 am »
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I've been goofing around with a 27/12 bow/melee hybrid, and I really enjoy it. I'm actually able to hit people (sometimes not even teammates!), and I have enough PS to defend myself from a single opponent (or two if they goof up). I feel that this is how archers should be - good at ranged, passable in melee, unable to kite.

This isn't really a nerf to archery as a whole; strength archery is vastly better than it was previously. This is also the first time that unloomed archery has been even remotely useful. I still really think that a free respec should be given to anybody with PD in their build, though.

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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #147 on: November 01, 2012, 11:24:31 am »
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if you consider respec that would be retarded for all the guys that bought a respec and you must give everyone a free respec other wise it is not fair
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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #148 on: November 01, 2012, 11:36:28 am »
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[19:50] <@Shik> new as in current
[19:50] <@Shik> you lose 10 wpf per HA point and also lose an HA point
[19:50] <@Shik> so 4 HA is actually 3
[19:50] <@Shik> and also -40 wpf

Eat my horse's shit

[19:51] <@Shik> anything is subject to change ofc
[19:51] <@Shik> nothing is final


Still ... Eat it !

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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #149 on: November 01, 2012, 12:08:46 pm »
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