NA Diplomacy Announcement from the Knights Hospitaller

[Braeden]

But I thought that FCC and TkoV were enemies who should be attacked on sight if seen within Hospitaller territory?

[CrazyCracka420]

But I thought that FCC and TkoV were enemies who should be attacked on sight if seen within Hospitaller territory?

According to who or what?

[Keshian]

Against any potential enemies that would threaten either faction?  So you can only come to diplomatic terms with another faction if you have enemies?  That's news to me.  Have none of you ever played EU3 or any seen any medieval diplomacy in movies or TV or books?  The Tudors comes to mind, as does A Song of Ice and Fire. 

People are reading too far into this.

And it's not like I didn't come and discuss this with you Kesh.  You certainly had options to come to diplomatic agreements with both KUTT and Hospitallers, but you chose not to.

Yeah like I told you before.  FCC members are 100% opposed to the idea of messing up NA the way UIF did to EU strat.  We refused to from an NA UIF with you and will always do so.  We thought you had enough integrity to do the same and keep the game fun still on the NA side.

[Hobb]

The only thing worse than telling the community you are a carebear? K-E-S-H reiterating the fact

[CrazyCracka420]

Yeah like I told you before.  FCC members are 100% opposed to the idea of messing up NA the way UIF did to EU strat.  We refused to from an NA UIF with you and will always do so.  We thought you had enough integrity to do the same and keep the game fun still on the NA side.

I never came to you with a UIF NA proposal.  I asked if relations between Hospitaller and KUTT went downhill, if we would be able to come to terms about KUTT being a mutual enemy.  That was it.  I told you where we planned to stop our expansion if that happened.  I also talked to other factions about lots of scenarios.  That was just one of them. 

I don't think alliances make the game "not fun".  I think alliances that last not only for full versions of strat but into new versions of strat is not fun.  That being said, there's nothing inherently "not fun" about two factions coming to terms with each other in ways that are mutually beneficial.  This is a great way for each faction to become more powerful. 

I don't see the doom and gloom behind it, and I think people just feel threatened.  Let me throw this scenario out there (which won't happen).  If KUTT and Hospitallers were powerful enough to take over the whole NA lands, we would certainly war each other at that point over territory.  We wouldn't pull a UIF and just peacefully co-exist forever. 

[Tears of Destiny]

Yeah like I told you before.  FCC members are 100% opposed to the idea of messing up NA the way UIF did to EU strat.  We refused to from an NA UIF with you and will always do so.  We thought you had enough integrity to do the same and keep the game fun still on the NA side.

Does this mean that the FCC is not interested in forming any alliances this strategus if two factions forming an alliance is considered the start of an NA UIF, or am I reading this wrong?


I'm a little curious on what the FCC considers itself since it is several factions itself under one banner.


Honest curiosity for future considerations, nothing more.

[Gmnotutoo]

I'm a little curious on what the FCC considers itself since it is several factions itself under one banner.

Unicorns have three members, Cavalieries have maybe around ten, BS has one member, and ....

[Keshian]

Unicorns have three members, Cavalieries have maybe around ten, Narwhals one person with downs.

Don't forget the 1-man army of Narwhals is worth any 5 vassal factions!!!

Plus 187 clan has 3 members.

[Lemmy_Winks]

I was under the impression that FCC/TKOV/remnant and maybe even chaos were unofficial allies more or less. With occitan gone someone had to balance the power, i guess that ended up being kutt.

[Gmnotutoo]

I was under the impression that FCC/TKOV/remnant and maybe even chaos were unofficial allies more or less. With occitan gone someone had to balance the power, i guess that ended up being kutt.

You must be really far up that Mr Slave's ass to come up with that idea.

[Turboflex]

Also, really???  The 2nd and 4th largest factions unite into a mega-alliance of 35% of NA player base (45% and 1st and 3rd if you include each of their various vassals (Norse Horde, Papal Guard, Astralis, Chevaliers for Hospitallers already made them bigger than any other 2 clans with 5 cities and countless fiefs).  Before a war has ever even broken

Just to clarify, as Huseby already mentioned, Norse Horde are not Hospitaller vassals, and not part of this new alliance.

[Gristle]

I was under the impression that FCC/TKOV/remnant and maybe even chaos were unofficial allies more or less. With occitan gone someone had to balance the power, i guess that ended up being kutt.

Having good relations and forming official pacts are very different things.

[CrazyCracka420]

http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/important-diplomacy-forum-rules/

We don't like the way the diplomacy subforum is being used right now - most threads derail into offtopic within page 1. We want to see more roleplaying and in-character conversation. This doesn't mean hardcore roleplaying, but you should write stuff with your character in mind.

Therefore, we will announce some rules that you should read closely before posting:
- no one liners - if you have something to say, put some effort in it.
- complete sentences, proper grammar - as above, put some effort in it.
- stay on topic
- no links to outside pictures, unless they really fit (ok: strategus map screenshot, not ok: link to 4chan images)
- same for youtube videos - unless you've done one yourself, it's most likely inappropiate.
- refrain from using "modern talk" - comparing a battle with the invasion of the iraq doesn't really help setting the mood
- think of it as people with messages that are getting sent to all of the lords.
- keep it in the timespan - so no talk about last strategus rounds, if possible

[Gristle]

Qouting the rules is off-topic, and a url is not a complete sentence. Are you asking to be warned in your own thread? However, on that topic, I will not obey any rule that demands I not be succinct when possible.

[Gmnotutoo]

http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/important-diplomacy-forum-rules/

My Good Sir, we have fought along side each other in many battles and you know that I am a sincere person. I do not know what you mean when saying you wish to see me role-play more, for I am not an actress but a lovely and beautiful archer from Vayejeg. Everything said between us has come from my own personal thoughts and there is no imaginary person controlling me with some diabolical mechanical witchcraft. We may have gone off topic for a little, but it became the topic of choice naturally and it still does relate to the original discussion. From my family in the North East, we wish you a great relationship consisting of many hugs, pats on the back, and maybe fornication.


Lady Gmnotutoo, Duchess of Vayejeg.