A catchy title to start a debate.

[Tears of Destiny]

Someone needs a hug, I think.

[Teeth]

So are you.

I treat people the way they treat others.

[Gnjus]

Someone needs a hug, I think.

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[Bjord]

I treat people the way they treat others.

I shiver at the thought of your mother's treatment.

[SirCymro_Crusader]

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[San]

Make it such that the agi shielders can chase them down easier.

[SirCymro_Crusader]

Make it so the agi shielders can chase them down easier.

Unfortunately agi shielders need some good armour so they can withstand hits from medium tier weapons, ive got 21 AGI and 7 ATH with just 15STR and most archers are still able to outrun me with medium-light gear

[duurrr]

the only way to counter range is to have more range.

[Pejlaen]

the only way to counter range is to have more range.

The only way to cure aids is to get more aids.

Edit: haha sorry, I couldnt not do it

[Miwiw]

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What the fuck did I just read?

You want every non-shield melee to change their class to shielder? That is not evolution, and sure as fuck not a solution. Solution could be to make archery more difficult. Not by nerfing the stats, but by increasing the projectile drop and allowing the low tier 1h/2h to be 0 slot. This way, archers are no longer forced to run and can put up a decent fight. Apart from that, there's no reason to fuck the class diversity up. I can't even believe that someone would be so short-sighted. You're suggesting that cRPG should turn into Native. Everyone is a shielder because there's no other way to counter ranged and that's how it's always been.

The reason I started playing Warband was because of the directional combat system, not because I wanted to be a medieval Counter Strike kiddie like ROBINHOOD. First few months I was ignorant and thought of ranged as a nuisance but no more than that. I even preferred it in the beginning. Then I discovered cRPG. Everyone was melee. Why? Because cRPG at that time was full of people who were fed up with Native and its completely flawed balancing. It was a medieval Counter Strike, basically. cRPG allowed for a venting of pent up frustration in the form of melee-centric action. That shit was fucking fun. Even later when most people got throwing or crossbow for sidearm, it was the best gameplay of my life. Then a major influx of archery began and again the frustration was coming back. Then devs nerfed it a few times and it was fine.

It's still fine, and people who complain have only themselves to blame for thinking that there should be no drawback while not wearing a shield.

Evolution my ass. Everything is fine. You just need to stop balance by nerf and instead change to balance by buff.

You sound like Infantry was the poor "class" and being underpowered. 

[Rextard]

Trying to make archery more realistic in a game (crpg) that doesn't strive to be entirely realistic...

Swords do not bend, chip, nor break. Polearm hafts are made of ironwood. There is no endurance. Noone ever throws their back out spamming maul overheads. Noones hands go numb from hard melee blocks. Chamon meow. Cha-mon.

Please keep crpg spicy. Not all archers are kite monsters.

[Bjord]

You sound like Infantry was the poor "class" and being underpowered. 

Maybe you should try Native before you open your stupid mouth.

[Miwiw]

Maybe you should try Native before you open your stupid mouth.

Maybe. I stopped playing native in december after playing since mid-beta everyday for hours.

However I played again for a couple of hours yesterday and didn't like it. I really prefer crpg archery. I'm also quite used to it like now and prefer the level system. The whole balance in crpg is far better imo and infantry will always stay the superior class (and that is okay!).

[Bjord]

Which is exactly what I said in my first post. Guess it got lost in translation, after the the part that reads "Bjord".

Native is gay. Anyone who plays it clings to some elitistic fantasy. Duel is okay in some aspects, but way too spammy and exploity(in lack of a better word).

Anyway, I am just an oldmy old friend who clings to old cRPG because melee was fun. But I doubt I'd get the same pleasure killing people without the need to keep aware of archers, adds a stress factor which makes me perform better. And die more often...

[Gnjus]

Anyway, I am just a my old friend

Getting out of the closet is the first step on the path of salvation. Good going lad, keep it up, walk towards the light !

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