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Re: A catchy title to start a debate.
« Reply #75 on: July 30, 2012, 08:30:01 pm »
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Archers were in a good place for a time.

Then they all got their bows and arrows masterworked and their builds perfected.

Just remove pierce from bodkins like before and everything will be fine again..

The problem is that before only the longbow where able to do pierce dmg now every freakin bow can do tons of dmg thx to bodkins which gives us the hornbow kite bundle of stickseers we have now.
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Re: A catchy title to start a debate.
« Reply #76 on: July 30, 2012, 08:56:51 pm »
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long story short most 2h and polearmers hate archers think archery is my old friendgy and despise anything that doesnt result in them going rambo and killing everyone in heroic duels. If you think taking a shield is no fun or my old friendgy then either suck it up and adapt your style to not getting shot so much or play on duel servers


but as i said a long time ago the only change archers need is a change to the loom system. they shouldnt be able to buff the damage of their weapon with both looms. Either make loomed bows more powerful or only more accurate and make arrows do more damage or more ammo not both
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Re: A catchy title to start a debate.
« Reply #77 on: July 30, 2012, 09:03:00 pm »
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What the fuck did I just read?

You want every non-shield melee to change their class to shielder? That is not evolution, and sure as fuck not a solution. Solution could be to make archery more difficult. Not by nerfing the stats, but by increasing the projectile drop and allowing the low tier 1h/2h to be 0 slot. This way, archers are no longer forced to run and can put up a decent fight. Apart from that, there's no reason to fuck the class diversity up. I can't even believe that someone would be so short-sighted. You're suggesting that cRPG should turn into Native. Everyone is a shielder because there's no other way to counter ranged and that's how it's always been.

The reason I started playing Warband was because of the directional combat system, not because I wanted to be a medieval Counter Strike kiddie like ROBINHOOD. First few months I was ignorant and thought of ranged as a nuisance but no more than that. I even preferred it in the beginning. Then I discovered cRPG. Everyone was melee. Why? Because cRPG at that time was full of people who were fed up with Native and its completely flawed balancing. It was a medieval Counter Strike, basically. cRPG allowed for a venting of pent up frustration in the form of melee-centric action. That shit was fucking fun. Even later when most people got throwing or crossbow for sidearm, it was the best gameplay of my life. Then a major influx of archery began and again the frustration was coming back. Then devs nerfed it a few times and it was fine.

It's still fine, and people who complain have only themselves to blame for thinking that there should be no drawback while not wearing a shield.

Evolution my ass. Everything is fine. You just need to stop balance by nerf and instead change to balance by buff.
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Re: A catchy title to start a debate.
« Reply #78 on: July 30, 2012, 09:09:29 pm »
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What the fuck did I just read?
I have no idea. Try reading the OP, though.

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Re: A catchy title to start a debate.
« Reply #79 on: July 30, 2012, 09:13:32 pm »
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Well obviously, I am referring to the part where he is suggesting that evolution is to take a shield because that's what adapting means and common sense dictates that you should get a shield, completely disregarding preference and fun.

FUN. Capiche?
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Re: A catchy title to start a debate.
« Reply #80 on: July 30, 2012, 09:14:26 pm »
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Well obviously, I am referring to the part where he is suggesting that evolution is to take a shield because that's what adapting means and common sense dictates that you should get a shield, completely disregarding preference and fun.

FUN. Capiche?
You did not get the point, obviously. Capiche?

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Re: A catchy title to start a debate.
« Reply #81 on: July 30, 2012, 09:34:01 pm »
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Arguing with you has no benefit, it's just pointless. Your only goal is to argue, not contribute to an argument. That is also the reason why you're such a likeable guy. :wink:

The only reason I addressed only a part of his post was because it offended me and I didn't like the way it was presented. It didn't correspond with my own beliefs and thus I replied accordingly. Just because you're always looking for things to invalidate doesn't mean others are too.
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Re: A catchy title to start a debate.
« Reply #82 on: July 30, 2012, 09:38:18 pm »
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You still miss the whole point, you fucking tool

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Re: A catchy title to start a debate.
« Reply #83 on: July 30, 2012, 09:42:24 pm »
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Fuck the point, you fucking loser.
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Re: A catchy title to start a debate.
« Reply #84 on: July 30, 2012, 09:44:27 pm »
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The only thing worse then having pTx OR Bjord post in a single thread is when they both do it.
Do you honestly think you have any sort of moral authority, Reyiz? Go genocide some more armenians and deny it ever happened, please, and stay in the middle east.
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Re: A catchy title to start a debate.
« Reply #85 on: July 30, 2012, 09:44:44 pm »
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Just because you're always looking for things to invalidate doesn't mean others are too.
You are, though.

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Re: A catchy title to start a debate.
« Reply #86 on: July 30, 2012, 09:50:15 pm »
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You are, though.

So are you.

The only thing worse then having pTx OR Bjord post in a single thread is when they both do it.

Denouncing two parties in order to empower yourself is a cheap trick, not to mention completely out of place in this instance.
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Re: A catchy title to start a debate.
« Reply #87 on: July 30, 2012, 09:52:05 pm »
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Don't tell me that people are starting to take Gnjus' jabs seriously now, are they?
I'm not normal and I don't pretend so, my approach is pretty much a bomb crescendo.
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Re: A catchy title to start a debate.
« Reply #88 on: July 30, 2012, 09:55:21 pm »
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Fuck you too.
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Re: A catchy title to start a debate.
« Reply #89 on: July 30, 2012, 09:57:30 pm »
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Denouncing two parties in order to empower yourself is a cheap trick, not to mention completely out of place in this instance.

If you just knew with how much sadness in my poor old heart did i "denounce" two of the most likeable parties in this forum.....you would be crying instead of me.  :cry:


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