AGI sucks.

[Bjord]

You forgot speed bonus advantage @ AGI.

[Engine]

I'm trying my first STR build above 18, specifically because Agi provides no bonuses besides the related skill unlocks.

[Diomedes]

You forgot speed bonus advantage @ AGI.

Someone said earlier that it doesn't give a weapon speed bonus anymore.

[Bjord]

Someone said earlier that it doesn't give a weapon speed bonus anymore.

Was it a dev?

Because obviously, wpf makes you swing faster and so does AGI. Faster swinging = higher speed bonuses.

[Punisher]

Was it a dev?

Because obviously, wpf makes you swing faster and so does AGI. Faster swinging = higher speed bonuses.

WPF is now the only thing that increases attack speed Bjord, check this out http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2531

[Bjord]

WPF is now the only thing that increases attack speed Bjord, check this out http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2531

Yes and I just got it confirmed from cmpxchgb8 too.

Sorry. 

[Wallace]

As one of the highest str chars currently playing I can tell you that str has nothing at all to do with defense against crush through

Also skilled players with agi kick a high str char's ass in 1  v 1

With all the QQing lately about str builds I'm thinking abotu going 3/36 next gen just to lulululul

[rustyspoon]

^^this

Also if you think agi builds aren't effective, you haven't seen an agi shielder with a steel pick.

[Whalen207]

So uhm... Apparently AGI has no bonuses except those from related skills.
It's good for mult-tiering and shielders. A little for horsemen.
That's about it.

[Siiem]

Agility = athletics = ridiculous speed bonus = win!

[cmp]

WPF is now the only thing that increases attack speed

It was always like this, that's hardcoded stuff.

[Diomedes]

Agility = athletics = ridiculous speed bonus = win!

I think athletics was nerfed in the last patch.  I find that I'm among the fastest on the field in medium armour and 5-6 agility, often racing on par with the agi-based ninjas.  After a certain point there doesn't seem to be much of an effect at all.  Do other folks have any proper stats on this?

[Seawied]

Say this to my 1h+shield char.

To JoG's 1h+Shield char: Feinting with a shield is much more ineffective than feinting without a shield.

I have a shielder too, feints are slower and ergo, much less effective.

[Rextard]

I think athletics was nerfed in the last patch.  I find that I'm among the fastest on the field in medium armour and 5-6 agility, often racing on par with the agi-based ninjas.  After a certain point there doesn't seem to be much of an effect at all.  Do other folks have any proper stats on this?

I finally found my favorite mix number wise, this build. its almost at 30, where it'll be 15/24 str/agi, 5 ps 8 ath, 8 wm. I've found getting the max out of my foot speed requires being very strict about equipment loadouts. I wear a rabati, tribal warrior outfit, sarranid leather boots and leather gloves . 3 pound spiked mace and light crossbow, one bag of bolts. I switched to boots down from splinted leather greaves over mail (1.5kg difference) and the light crossbow from regular crossbow (.5 kg difference), and that little amount was what was holding me back from running at what felt like 7 athletics.

So maybe encumbrance is a big issue with seeing full agi benefits.

[Cyclopsided]

I think athletics was nerfed in the last patch.  I find that I'm among the fastest on the field in medium armour and 5-6 agility, often racing on par with the agi-based ninjas.  After a certain point there doesn't seem to be much of an effect at all.  Do other folks have any proper stats on this?

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,3278.0.html
Much of this thread needs to reference this.

Also; Athletics was not nerfed in the last patch. However, it rains a large deal of the time. Rain decreases movement speed by a lot & Xbow damage by a lot, among other things.

We honestly need to sticky WaltF4's threads on athletics and agility.