Is this how Druzhina,STR and Greys win in Strat??

[Shpritza]

As Crymoar already said: these things tend to work both ways. If this "new side" of ours which wants to play a Strategy game based on anything other then cheating and abusing the system means that we're tards & imbeciles in your eyes - so be it.

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Also - you guys are equaling things that cannot be compared, trolling with cheating & system abuse. Hypothetically speaking - we have two persons, for the sake of the story lets call 'em Harmy old friend & Pancake. Harfgag is a calm, decent man who doesn't talk much while Pancake is a manic-psychotic dummy who can't keep his mouth shut. One day Pancake accidentally sees Harmy old friend committing a cold-blooded murder in the street so he comes screaming to you (an officer of the law) even bringing some evidence about it that undeniably show Harmy old friend is a murderer but what do you do ? You put Pancake in jail cause cause you don't like him or think he's drunk or mad while you don't even chase Harmy old friend because you know him and his personality is much more appealing to you, even tho his crime is much more severe (and he already has a criminal record to his name). You should punish people based on the crimes they commit, not their personalities. Murder is a crime heavier then being an imbecile. Harmy old friend and his kind are murdering Strat for the rest of the participants with their constant deliberate "miss-interpretations" of the rules while you ban the messengers who bring you the news of their "deeds" because you don't like their face or the sound of their voice. Awesome justice indeed.

a fucking + 1.000.000 to this, and we all know Panos didn't deserve a permaban. But who am i to judge the "all mighty admins" and the "justice" they practice on us all.

 

[Jacko]

Of course not v/onMega, but if you are going to accuse people, you need credibility, which you loose if you behave like Panos did, ingame.

Okin was the first one to point out that the pics posted had real infringements in them, and it IS a problem that people sign up and waste tickets, and it should be punished. Obviously we need a bigger admin presence, but in the end, it will come down to clans policing there own members.

[Fluffy_Muffin]

Of course not v/onMega, but if you are going to accuse people, you need credibility, which you loose if you behave like beer did, ingame.

Okin was the first one to point out that the pics posted had real infringements in them, and it IS a problem that people sign up and waste tickets, and it should be punished. Obviously we need a bigger admin presence, but in the end, it will come down to clans policing there own members.

Yes this is all obviously a misunderstanding. All the accounts of the clan members were used by the leader so he could police them better, and about the clan mates on the wrong side of battles in Strat: that just because they couldnt join the right side so they had to join the enemy. How else will they keep an eye on them

[Peasant_Woman]

Strat is joke tier now. Play fair or not at all.

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

next strat, just leave nords, drz grey and (hax)co play strat and let's just enjoy the easy xp

[BlueKnight]

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As Crymoar already said: these things tend to work both ways. If this "new side" of ours which wants to play a Strategy game based on anything other then cheating and abusing the system means that we're tards & imbeciles in your eyes - so be it.

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Also - you guys are equaling things that cannot be compared, trolling with cheating & system abuse. Hypothetically speaking - we have two persons, for the sake of the story lets call 'em Harmy old friend & Pancake. Harfgag is a calm, decent man who doesn't talk much while Pancake is a manic-psychotic dummy who can't keep his mouth shut. One day Pancake accidentally sees Harmy old friend committing a cold-blooded murder in the street so he comes screaming to you (an officer of the law) even bringing some evidence about it that undeniably show Harmy old friend is a murderer but what do you do ? You put Pancake in jail cause cause you don't like him or think he's drunk or mad while you don't even chase Harmy old friend because you know him and his personality is much more appealing to you, even tho his crime is much more severe (and he already has a criminal record to his name). You should punish people based on the crimes they commit, not their personalities. Murder is a crime heavier then being an imbecile. Harmy old friend and his kind are murdering Strat for the rest of the participants with their constant deliberate "miss-interpretations" of the rules while you ban the messengers who bring you the news of their "deeds" because you don't like their face or the sound of their voice. Awesome justice indeed.

And What if a Pancake is a paranoic person and Harmy old friend didn't commit that murder? Pancake is spreading bullshit around so there must be something done about it. I'm sure if Harmy old friend really commited the murder he would be sentenced to death penalty and Pancake would become a hero of justice.

[polkafranzi]

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And What if a Pancake is a paranoic person and Harmy old friend didn't commit that murder? Pancake is spreading bullshit around so there must be something done about it. I'm sure if Harmy old friend really commited the murder he would be sentenced to death penalty and Pancake would become a hero of justice.

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[chadz]

We're aware of that, it's hard to police. Where do you draw the line. It's especially hard for me because people think I'm one of them as well, even though I just suck.

Oh and this thread doesn't have anything to do with beer getting (now "real" perma-) permabanned. If you want to know the reason, ask him.

[Andswaru]

Oh someone tell us the real reason! Gnjus share!

[Teeth]

Obviously we need a bigger admin presence, but in the end, it will come down to clans policing there own members.

Yes , because Grey Order has always been known for urging their members to play fairly and be good sports, let's put our faith in that!

Seriously, as a complete outsider, having not participated in strat apart from when I was a ninja and barely did anything, the conduct of a lot of Grey Order members is unacceptable and despicable. I really recommend the devs/admins having a serious talk with Grey Order leadership about keeping their members in line and booting members that can't behave. One could say its wrong to see the leaders of a clan accountable for the actions of their members, but I think it is necesarry in the case of the Grey Order.

When Grey Order leadership fails to keep their members from playing unfair, start giving their leaders short bans. Its the only way to properly motivate them to police their own members, cause I can't help to get the impression that they either don't give a shit, or more likely, encourage their members to be complete asshats to facilitate victory for the Grey Order.

[Gnjus]

Oh someone tell us the real reason! Gnjus share!

Obviously for the heavy crimes against sanity that CMP quoted earlier: repetitive posting of 5 identical Butthurt images to 5 different people. I tried to interfere for some diversity but I was too late.

[Fluffy_Muffin]

For all of you who joined this thread late and cant be arsed to read it all, let me summarize for you since i did read it all:

Panos posts abuse screenshots, Panos gets permabanned. Pics ignored, community brainfarts. The end

[cmp]

"Hey guys, let's assume the devs are not going to do anything about this, despite them not having said anything yet, and let's start criticizing them for it. It is obvious that there is something fishy going on here, starting with the completely unwarranted ban on Panos. He was a respectable member of the community, a pillar of honesty and integrity, who got silenced because he tried to reveal the conspiracy surrounding the Nord admin clan. Just look at how much hate that clan receives: it's true that most of it comes from one guy and his buddies, but nonetheless it must mean something.
Moreover, we need someone to blame, some who's in it knee deep. There's this guy, okiN - he might have a reputation of being a fair and unbiased admin, but in reality he's just a fraud. He showed his true colors during the battle for Suno, when he refused to act on Panos' word, which totally didn't turn out to be utter bullshit. This dark lord and puppet master of the evil alliance must be stopped, at all costs."

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[BlueKnight]

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Do you think that their scores are weak because they want to die and help their clanmates... We are playing fucking game. It's not a damn life. We are here to have fun not acuse people of cheating etc. I'm sure if I joined the enemy side and played for enemy I wouldn't have any trouble, I would be told to try to join the proper side next time lol. Also... If we are defending the AI side and CMP who is damn nord has 10-1 stats, DenBitre Ronald MeliosSandro has 17-1 and 1 grey has 21-1 do you think we really care about wasting tickets? You aren't worth my attention because you are all looking for damn cheaters and can't enjoy the game. Once you win once you lose and 11-20 isn't that bad if you are spawnraped. 11-20 won't bring the victory to the enemy when you are 1 among other 50 teammates and when it's 1800 vs 2200 tickets.... These are details and mistakes not special abusing lol.

haha cmp

[Gnjus]

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Yes , because Grey Order has always been known for urging their members to play fairly and be good sports, let's put our faith in that!

Seriously, as a complete outsider, having not participated in strat apart from when I was a ninja and barely did anything, the conduct of a lot of Grey Order members is unacceptable and despicable. I really recommend the devs/admins having a serious talk with Grey Order leadership about keeping their members in line and booting members that can't behave. One could say its wrong to see the leaders of a clan accountable for the actions of their members, but I think it is necesarry in the case of the Grey Order.

When Grey Order leadership fails to keep their members from playing unfair, start giving their leaders short bans. Its the only way to properly motivate them to police their own members, cause I can't help to get the impression that they either don't give a shit, or more likely, encourage their members to be complete asshats to facilitate victory for the Grey Order.

Your efforts are commendable Salvador but I'm afraid its a mentality problem, not the clan discipline. There is 600 clans around here and none has similar issues except the Poles. We all know the notorious reputation of their online gaming community, not only in Warband but in various other games as well and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Asking the Poles to play their games in a fair manner is like asking Russians not to drink vodka ever again. Mission impossible, even for Tom Cruise or Chuck Norris.