Nerf Cav

[Solidox]

Buff archers, Nerf cav.

[matt2507]

nerf cav...
NO !!!


nerf arabian... 
YES !!!



or maybe ok for a total nerf if you reduce the repair cost...

[Thomek]

So the cav metagame has arrived in NA too..

Too many cav are simply just frustrating to gameplay for the biggest amount of players.. Their numbers must be reduced somehow.

I wanted to change them so they would play a little more predictable and use team based tactics more. Not going around like superfast solo Ninjas with 1shot backstab abilities, and super easy headshots with 1h and lances, which effectively quadruples their base damage..  (Just hold the mouse at the right angle at all times..)

Let's hope some devs listen this time.

[Vkvkvk]

So the cav metagame has arrived in NA too..

Too many cav are simply just frustrating to gameplay for the biggest amount of players.. Their numbers must be reduced somehow.

I wanted to change them so they would play a little more predictable and use team based tactics more. Not going around like superfast solo Ninjas with 1shot backstab abilities, and super easy headshots with 1h and lances, which effectively quadruples their base damage..  (Just hold the mouse at the right angle at all times..)

Let's hope some devs listen this time.

Cav metagame has been in NA for shitlong, it's just the first time that someone in NA is vocal like that about it apparently.

Horses are also ridiculously maneuvrable, they can nearly turn on a dime at full speed and the little speed they lose to turn on a dime, they just accelerate back to it within a second because of stupid speed stats and because Horses heirlooms are fuckretarded.

When I play as a class that can't deal with cavalry really well (Short weapon or archer if the cav actually got close to me) all I can really do is dodge while he turns on a dime and come for another run within 3 seconds of the first run, shit's stupid. When I dodge a horse, I expect to atleast be safe for more than 3 seconds but nope, that cav is already in my back wiggling his lance in my rectum. because he turned instantly.

[ROHYPNOL]

hrm.. whatever buff horse crossbow.. you all suck at it..

NERF PEOPLE WHO ARE LEVEL 31+ FORCE THEM TO ACTUALLY PLAY SOMETHING ELSE RAWWRRRRRR

[Swaggart]

Cav didn't used to be a problem when the longspear was 2 slots and all 2Hs and Polearms brought it against cav. The bamboo spear is even better if you have no polearm wpf so I'm not sure why people don't bring it for extra anti-cav power/deterrence. I guess it's because the line of thinking in my signature is much more pervasive.

[Thomek]

Shit used to be cewl when I could pull a bamboo out of my pocket.. Now there is no more hidden surprises for cav, so they just choose another target if you wear it.

[Swaggart]

Sounds like a pretty good cav counter to me.

[Gurnisson]

Sounds like a pretty good cav counter to me.

It's a defensive counter, just like shields are for archers. It's not an offensive counter, you just repel them. No half-decent cav would run at a long/bamboo spear

[Blashyrkh]

to be honest I don't see the problem with cav ... I see the problem that all the cav is in one team (and not mine!)

[Chris_P_Bacon]

*ahem* As a 2h/polearm user, if this change is implemented I believe horse charges should be one hit kills, just like in real life.

[Smoothrich]

Reduce all mounted lance damage by 25 percent (including couching), and reduce all mounted xbow stats by 25 percent while you are at it.   Maybe consider a  reduction of the maneuver stat across every horse, but a small one.  Reduce mounted shield skill/shield coverage by a good amount.  I think that would be enough for a while.

[Mustikki]

Give 100g bonus to whoever kills an enemy horse.

[Thomek]

Reduce all mounted lance damage by 25 percent (including couching), and reduce all mounted xbow stats by 25 percent while you are at it.   Maybe consider a  reduction of the maneuver stat across every horse, but a small one.  Reduce mounted shield skill/shield coverage by a good amount.  I think that would be enough for a while.

This is a good idea, they can get large amounts of damage from speed-bonuses anyway. As well as was done with archery, one can reward headshots more, something which is not so hard and good cav already does all the time anyway.

[Banok]

I tried cav recently and now trying archer so I can say without bias that cav absolutely rapes archers. as archer you have to spend most the time zoomed in and have 45 degree vision, and horse sounds suck - if they are going decent speed only hear them when they are 2 metres away and then its too late.

imo from playing arbalest, xbow is WAY better than bow for killing cavalry, you can always take your time and hit the horses head. but on open maps xbow becomes useless - and cav go about unchecked really.

yeah horses really need a nerf or a proper counter, but i'm not exactly sure how without making it unplayable.

It's a defensive counter, just like shields are for archers. It's not an offensive counter, you just repel them. No half-decent cav would run at a long/bamboo spear

+1