1 handers without shield

[Loar Avel]

I mean, its funny to see how some guys walk around with 1handers blocking all these big axes and outspaming guys...

Not that hard with real one, if your not stupid enough to block like you do it in Warband.

And especially if you remember that axe are blade on a WOOD staff.

How the fuck sickle could block Long great axe?

Sickle is a really nasty weapon, the day you could use it in warband like in reality, you will cry about it.

And because I'm nice, I give you a free video that will show you (a little) how nasty is a sickle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6UumBR7Fzc



And because we're speaking about realism here, the thing that shock me, is that when I'm using a 1h without shield, I can't use my left hand to grab my ennemy weapon, then beat him to death with my pommel (While laughing)

[Idzo]

Maybe the fact that just me and Bjord now are the only pure swashbucklers in EU says enough about its strength


NOT TRUE!

Byrdi is 1h no shield this gen.

To be honest Shield is awesome in gank situation/clusterfucks and against range

1h without shield is superior to 1h+shield in 1 on 1 situations and sometimes 2 on 1 depending on player skill and agi. Chambering with 1h no shield and good wpf is very easy and the speed increase when your shield breaks makes you very fearsome. ofc smarter 2h walk backwards swinging hoping for an outrange or kick but its still a very very fun build

+1

Sickle is a really nasty weapon, the day you could use it in warband like in reality, you will cry about it.

And because I'm nice, I give you a free video that will show you (a little) how nasty is a sickle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6UumBR7Fzc

You're kidding right?

[Taser]

Lol 1h with no shield is fun to play especially since people don't usually see it, thus they underestimate it. It is a bit easier to spam especially when one is fighting a str heavy build but I've been outranged by people holding down the s key. The weapon stun is a constant companion so when you notice it, you just block the next attack as well. 1h with no shield is a fun playstyle but if you want to nerf the ability for a weapon to block something simply based that in real life weapons chip, crack or break completely based on the collision, that would ruin this game completely. Especially since you're offering the idea based on the fact that archers can block you.. oh noes..

[Vodner]

1h without shield is superior to 1h+shield in 1 on 1 situations and sometimes 2 on 1 depending on player skill and agi. Chambering with 1h no shield and good wpf is very easy and the speed increase when your shield breaks makes you very fearsome. ofc smarter 2h walk backwards swinging hoping for an outrange or kick but its still a very very fun build

Having your shield break slightly increases your movement speed (dependent on the weight of your shield), but doesn't actually help with swing speed. At least, I haven't read anything to that effect. I've also played a lot of 1h both with and without a shield, and never noticed any difference.

The main difference is that most people (myself included) tend to hold their shield up whenever they aren't attacking, which slows your footwork down. When you're manually blocking you usually only block shortly before impact.

[Rhaelys]

When I first read this topic I thought the OP was suggesting that 1H no shield players crushthrough whenever they attack to compensate for not having a shield.

And then I realized what the topic was actually about, and I lol'd.

[Loar Avel]

You're kidding right?

We found manuscript about how to fight with sickle (by Paulus Hector Mair (1517–1579)).

It's a weapon who allow parry, to made throw, to disarm, grab, and easy to find.

So, when I say it's a nasty weapon, no,  I'm not kidding.

[Leesin]

Maybe it's just me. but tbh i have problems with seeing 1h attack direction 
you can attack mi with staff and i can block for ages, but 1h as tiny thing in your hand... i get lost pretty fast 

yeah and my build is 24/15 and its not rly for dueling but i dont have problems with it.

after all speed of 1h are not point of this discussion... weight and blocking ability of 1h weapon is...

Let me compare to you guys.

How the fuck Mini cooper could block tank on his way thru street?
How the fuck sickle could block Long great axe?

How can a sword block a spear thrust just by holding their weapon down in a stupid pose which is actually 2 feet below where the spear is aimed? oh right, it's a game, that's why. Your argument is stupid and would destroy an already minimally played build that is actually very balanced. You're just butthurt because you got owned by a few archers with weak ass 1h weapons, admit it man lol.

What you're suggesting is that anyone who uses a big weapon should just be able to spam their way through the game with no1 able to block them other than other big weapon using bundle of stickss and the game to become even more of a spam buttfucking contest. As much as I myself enjoy a good 2h/polearm duel, this game involves alot more weapon types and builds than those and cRPG has always aimed to involve EVERY kind of weapon and builds.

I hope this thread gets locked because 1h + no shield is the most balanced thing out there and it takes skill to prevail with.

[TugBoat]

I duel frequently on duel servers with 1h weapons against 2handers, and the range is already a problem to overcome, and block stun is HUGE disadvantage especially with all the players using axes and poleaxes and flamberg's and nodachi and all of these other super heavy weapons.. I get block stunned very often

[Kafein]

I mean, its funny to see how some guys walk around with polearms swinging all these big axes, making feints and outspaming guys using weapons that can only be three times faster...

Swashbucklers are fine. There are plenty of things that need a hell of a lot more fixing in this game, especially if you take the realism road. Look up for an example.

[Formless]

Nerf 1 hand no shield, you are kidding right.   

Cause its not hard enough to play already?

1 hand no shield, is the toughest melee class to play, you can tell it is cause almost no one plays it.  If it was overpowered or even very solid there would be many many people playing it not the 1 or 2 guys I see a night.  The size of the weapon plus the reduce damage the weapon does are already two big handicaps.  Not to mention that even with 7ps a 1 hander still gets tons of bounces off armour. 

If anything 1 hand no shield deserves a boost, maybe an added speed advantage.  Or a change in stance to fencer dueling stance, (cause the current 1 hand stance don't make sense) that would let 1 handers move forward and backward faster. 

 





 

[Bobthehero]

This would be the opposite of buffing swashbucklers...bobthehero will not be happy.

Also, 1hers already get weapon stunned by heavier weapons/str builds/holds

Hell no.

I am a raging volcano inside right now.

You feel the weight when you block with your puny 1h sword, you REALLY feel it.

Edit: OP I will go back in time, have sex with your mother and killing your father, then raise you, kidnap your first girlfriend and then shoot her, then I'll beat you up and kill you. Its for the good of all of us, really.

[Gurnisson]

Nerf 1 hand no shield, you are kidding right.   

Cause its not hard enough to play already?

1 hand no shield, is the toughest melee class to play, you can tell it is cause almost no one plays it.  If it was overpowered or even very solid there would be many many people playing it not the 1 or 2 guys I see a night.  The size of the weapon plus the reduce damage the weapon does are already two big handicaps.  Not to mention that even with 7ps a 1 hander still gets tons of bounces off armour. 

If anything 1 hand no shield deserves a boost, maybe an added speed advantage.  Or a change in stance to fencer dueling stance, (cause the current 1 hand stance don't make sense) that would let 1 handers move forward and backward faster.

No. 1H without shield is great, best dueling weapons imo, and it's not bad in battle situations either.

[Idzo]

Your argument is stupid and would destroy an already minimally played build that is actually very balanced.


You're just butthurt because you got owned by a few archers with weak ass 1h weapons, admit it man lol.

Yeah, very balanced actually. stop talking bullshit dude.

Archer with weak ass 1h weapon cant do shit to me. with my build and IF's he can't even glance on me. with hold attack and few change of directions with 8Ps it's mostly one shot so...
especially when I do the walk out of swings thing where the damage i take is rly minimum...

So stop writing shit man, i cant read it anymore you're gonna make me puke.
after all. I guess you didn't even get what's this thread about so pls

[Leesin]

Yeah, very balanced actually. stop talking bullshit dude.

Archer with weak ass 1h weapon cant do shit to me. with my build and IF's he can't even glance on me. with hold attack and few change of directions with 8Ps it's mostly one shot so...
especially when I do the walk out of swings thing where the damage i take is rly minimum...

So stop writing shit man, i cant read it anymore you're gonna make me puke.
after all. I guess you didn't even get what's this thread about so dolan pls

I get what it's about and if anyone is talking bullshit, it's you. 1h aren't going to be nerfed because of this whine thread, because 1. they don't need nerfing and 2. you're a ballsack. You can't even see your own errors in your suggestion let alone form a decent and valid argument for it. Enjoy getting WHOOPED by archers with their shitty little weapon.

Just let this thread die man, I'm sure if you stopped now you wouldn't lose all of your dignity. 

[Idzo]

All i see is that you still dont get it what i'm talking about.

But that's normal when someone is retarded i guess...