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Offline Zisa

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It will be a cold day in hell...
« on: May 25, 2012, 07:35:13 am »
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Before I put up with racist hate mongering nobody seems to want to do anything about. I won't put up with it in my life, nor my gaming, regardless of what you claim the rules are. There will be NO apology EVER for tk'ing BlindPew / Braun, I will tk that motherfucker every chance I get.

This is not a threat, it is a promise.

This was beyond the off color joke, this was pure and simple hate mongering.
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Re: It will be a cold day in hell...
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2012, 08:06:01 am »
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Re: It will be a cold day in hell...
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2012, 08:19:02 am »
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c'mon zisa i know you are better than this, screenshot and report
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Re: It will be a cold day in hell...
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2012, 08:20:31 am »
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I did in my post but everyone is shitting on me for being unable to take any insults/snitch/etc.


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Re: It will be a cold day in hell...
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2012, 08:21:54 am »
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I did in my post but everyone is shitting on me for being unable to take any insults/snitch/etc.
I wasn't shitting on you.
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Re: It will be a cold day in hell...
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2012, 08:22:55 am »
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I wasn't shitting on you.

Sorry, that was the general gist of the replies. Not yours.

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Re: It will be a cold day in hell...
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2012, 08:24:53 am »
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It's ridiculous, really, that people have to put up with this crap. It doesnt accomplish anything by thinkin your better than said person (there's enough of that already w/o racism) and it just ruins game time. In favor.

+1 Not so much the death threat (promise, sorry :P) but come on guys, stop being stupid. Racism has no need here (or anywhere, for that matter).
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Re: It will be a cold day in hell...
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2012, 08:32:43 am »
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Sorry, that was the general gist of the replies. Not yours.

Np m8. In my post I was just referring to the fact how that discussion always becomes endless e-war and nothing is gained. I would suggest you post a ban thread in a proper subforum. There will be admins who determine how to proceed. I think he gets a ban from saying such things in ingame chat. He gets what he deserves and you get justice. I would also delete or lock these two threads before there is a complete shitstorm of trolls and super mad people who want to kill each other. That is your decision though but I've seen couple of these threads pop up once in a while here and it always ends up the same way.
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Re: It will be a cold day in hell...
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2012, 08:40:53 am »
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Lets agree to be homophobic not raciest.
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Re: It will be a cold day in hell...
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2012, 09:33:08 am »
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Should just start banning people. No point in spewing that shit at strangers.

The funny thing is so many people thought that racism wouldn't be an issue on the internet because no one would be able to know what race you are, but in reality the racists just assume your white and racist like them. Or worse they revel in trolling with it.

I'm not and never will be a racist. I've been on the arse end of racism multiple times, I've mostly just laughed at the people fling it at me. But it is tiresome, and I think one of the poorest and most pointless insults. It's a shame that some people cut themselves off to so much of the world because they're all raged out at a group of people and I hope at some point that will subside and go away so they can check out all the shit they are missing.

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In saying that people go through a lot worse because some people make a distinction that doesn't really exist. If you find some one to be a dick head, I guarantee you it is dependent on one thing and one thing only. That person is a dick head.

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Re: It will be a cold day in hell...
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2012, 04:38:38 pm »
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I did in my post but everyone is shitting on me for being unable to take any insults/snitch/etc.

wait, You bought and are using a second account zisa? Huh I didn't think....oh nm.
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Re: It will be a cold day in hell...
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2012, 04:41:52 pm »
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Re: It will be a cold day in hell...
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2012, 05:09:44 pm »
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Re: It will be a cold day in hell...
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2012, 05:20:26 pm »
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Welcome to the c-RPG community. You must be new.

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Re: It will be a cold day in hell...
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2012, 05:39:39 pm »
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Before I put up with racist hate mongering nobody seems to want to do anything about. I won't put up with it in my life, nor my gaming, regardless of what you claim the rules are. There will be NO apology EVER for tk'ing BlindPew / Braun, I will tk that motherfucker every chance I get.

This is not a threat, it is a promise.

This was beyond the off color joke, this was pure and simple hate mongering.


I don't know what is it always about trying to ban all racism. It will never be achieved, neither in real life nor in a game, not just because the line between a racist and a do-gooder is flowing.

Of course, if things happen like Frank described them, it's a bad thing and shouldn't happen. But I think people should be allowed to think what they want, and if they have to make a choice it's totally THEIR decision how they decide and on which criteria. The things that happened to Frank are not bad because they happened out of racism, they are bad because they involved violence. If they just thought thank Frank was an asshole or something like that, which children often do, would it have been better? Not a single bit.

Part of politeness is, that it happens on a voluntary base. If you are forced to be kind, it's no real kindness. So if you decide you don't want to be kind to someone, it is totally okay, because it HAS TO BE OKAY in a free country. So it is totally your decision if you are unpolite to a manager who just closed a fabric and reopened it in the third world, a sentenced child molester, a member of another party, to Jehova's Witnesses or to someone who is black/muslim/both/whatever.

So unless racism leads to harm of someone else it's totally irrelevant. And if it DOES lead to harm, it's still irrelevant, because the harm is the bad thing, not the motivation.

If someone is writing crap via the internet, no harm can be done to you, unless you allow it by taking it serious. This is just what those people want to achieve. I guess if racism was neither forbidden nor outlawed like now, those verbal attacks would most likely vanish, because they would have no effect. And some racistic jokes will always persist, not because of the racism itself, it's just that most often they are the most funny ones.  :wink:

So don't make a drama. If you Teamkill one of those retards I think you are making yourself to something even worse than him, because he just tries to annoy and troll and can be muted, but you teamkill someone, which is much worse and a kind of "ingame violence". And the fact that you think it's "justice" and it's about you to decide what is right or wrong, who needs to get punished and how the punishment has to look like puts you on the same level of immaturity like Braun and his fellows.

In Germany, after 1968 where the generation following the "postwar"-generation, which more or less did like there never was a holocaust and the participation of their parents, started to ask questions like "How was einstein possible?" and so on, which grew to a grotesque extend where you are not allowed to dislike anybody who is a foreigner or something like that. It's like: "I don't like him, he's an arrogant asshole!" "Oh my god, you can't say that, he's a Jew!". Seriously.
The leftwinger in this country, mostly in the organisation "AntiFa", are exactly the same like the skindheads here, just with black hoodie shirts. They are equally willing to use violence and even seek the conflict, exactly like skinheads (okay, minus attacking foreign looking civilians). They made the slogan "No tolerance towards intolerance", and to me this is one of the most retarded sayings ever. If you are intolerant against intolerant people, you make yourself one of them.

I think the only way to differ yourself from racists is to say "I don't like what you say, but if it's about me to decide, you are free to say it.", because everyone in a free democracy should not only be allowed to say everything he wants, he should also be allowed to like or hate whatever he wants, for whatever reason he thinks is viable.

So stop your goddamn starry-eyed idealism, for god's sake, I have enough of it in the country I live, otherwise I'm gonna start to puke. No one likes saints.


Edit:
This is not a threat, it is a promise.

This is another one of those stupid sayings. It even exists in German. Usually the definition of threatening someone is promising harm. Which makes such things very well a threat. This is not directed at you, Zisa, it's just meant in general, that not everything which is established is neccessarily valid.  :wink:


Edit2:
Well our heads were used as a stair case.

Explains quite a lot  :mrgreen:

On a more serious note: I feel sorry for you. Such behaviour is truly inacceptable, but what can you do? Children are cruel.  :rolleyes:
« Last Edit: May 25, 2012, 06:26:22 pm by Joker86 »
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