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Offline Lanic0r

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Increase Shield weight and reduce HP penalty on 1h
« on: March 19, 2011, 07:15:03 pm »
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HEllo i would like you to ballence this game a bit.
My first point is the amount of HP what a shield contains. Do you imagine how much power a shield must have to block an smashing great axe. Think for instance to fell a tree. With one hit you cut off a lot. So why cant i destroy a shield with a few swings, it doesent matter what kind of wodden shield. Three swings or overheads would be fine.  For example I have ps 7 and need 10 swings to destroy a wodden shield.

Secont point is;
The easiest way to play is to play with shields. Almost unbreakeble shields are avaiveble (Fur Covered Shield 600HP). How thick is this shield, 30 cm? An why isnt the turning speed decreased that they have to stop while bocking my ultra brutal GREAT AXE?
Next are the 1h weapons. They are very fast and this ridiculous Military Hammer inflicts 29 blunt. Any idea how to win if hes got 2 times bonus? Unbreackeble shield and ultra fast ultra brutal 29 blunt hammer?
Shields need a moderate nerf!
I suggest when players block a hit they will stop for 0,5 seconds if its a weapon with bonus against shields
and penalties for all 1h while playing with shield :)
« Last Edit: March 19, 2011, 07:28:54 pm by Lanic0r »

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Re: Increase Shield weight and reduce HP penalty on 1h
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2011, 07:18:22 pm »
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no

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Re: Increase Shield weight and reduce HP penalty on 1h
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2011, 07:20:13 pm »
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good suggestion, never gonna happen, just use a maul or something, stop throwing lances.

cheers
And now he can't play because of "common sense" and he doesn't understand how this common sense works
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Re: Increase Shield weight and reduce HP penalty on 1h
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2011, 07:28:35 pm »
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Do you imagine how much power a shield must have to block an smashing great axe. Think for instance to fell a tree. With one hit you cut off a lot. So why cant i destroy a shield with a few swings, it doesent matter what kind of wodden shield.

Have you ever tried to cut down a tree with an axe? It takes a few swings...

Balance-wise, one-handed is the low man on the totem-pole in my opinion. If you made these changes you would just make it so that shields are absolutely useless. What you're saying is when I block your attack with a shield, rather than YOU being penalized for missing, *I* am the one who cannot move for half a second. You basically get to stun me each time you HIT MY SHIELD, meaning I can never ever hit back if I am being attacked. FAIL IDEA.

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Re: Increase Shield weight and reduce HP penalty on 1h
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2011, 07:32:54 pm »
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have you ever tried to swing a Great axe 2 times in 1 second? i doubt it.
And btw it takes 1.6 sec with 155 wpf in pole and no armor ;D
Its only the ballance that i can try to get behind you or to keep the distance. And why should you block my attack without being pushed backwards?
« Last Edit: March 19, 2011, 07:35:13 pm by Lanic0r »

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Re: Increase Shield weight and reduce HP penalty on 1h
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2011, 07:39:19 pm »
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No shield can take 10 strikes with a great axe without shatting from the first 5 (5-6 ps).
those 0.5 seconds is a ridiculous suggestion - 0.5 seconds means alot during a fight.
What some one-handers got in speed they lack in either damage or range..
Dude nerfing one handers isnt a good idea

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Re: Increase Shield weight and reduce HP penalty on 1h
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2011, 07:50:06 pm »
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Well, I personally don't mind a HP nerf for the very high hp shields, but why increase weight? They are the heaviest items in game already ... rather make them lighter so shielders have better chances to catch archers.
But the other way round it's silly, too, f.e. my knightly heater shield was destroyed by 1 axe swing. It's not like they are made from paper, with steel rim etc. either. And it should be quite hard to fight with your axe sticking in a 6kg shield...

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Re: Increase Shield weight and reduce HP penalty on 1h
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2011, 08:03:35 pm »
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Re: Increase Shield weight and reduce HP penalty on 1h
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2011, 09:43:26 pm »
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No, no and again: NO.

Also, weight increase? OK, shields like Steel Shield, Heavy Board Shield are already almost invunerable to Crushthrough, so why don't we make them even more effective vs. that kind of "weapon bonus"? =D

You would rather buff shields, if it comes to increase weight, but hp decrease...? No! + you are talking about wooden shields only, but you have nothing to say about almost unbreakable Steel Shield? I say: almost unbreakable for weapons that dont have bonus against shields. :)

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Re: Increase Shield weight and reduce HP penalty on 1h
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2011, 10:24:21 pm »
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this   thread have plenty of fail
« Last Edit: March 19, 2011, 10:28:52 pm by Vicious666 »

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Re: Increase Shield weight and reduce HP penalty on 1h
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2011, 10:31:14 pm »
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You've just changed screen, I won't trust you anymore!!!111oneoneone

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Re: Increase Shield weight and reduce HP penalty on 1h
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2011, 10:32:38 pm »
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Have you ever played 1h with shield?

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Re: Increase Shield weight and reduce HP penalty on 1h
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2011, 10:37:43 pm »
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Lanic0r? Yea, I think he did. He also played thrower and he says it isn't overpowered in any way (hence why isn't he crying about throwing instead of crying about already balanced shields?]

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Re: Increase Shield weight and reduce HP penalty on 1h
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2011, 10:44:17 pm »
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Lanic0r? Yea, I think he did. He also played thrower and he says it isn't overpowered in any way (hence why isn't he crying about throwing instead of crying about already balanced shields?]


so his credibility is   0?


i played a thrower for some retirement  1h+shield and  6 pt, and is  FUCKING OP

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Re: Increase Shield weight and reduce HP penalty on 1h
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2011, 10:50:06 pm »
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omg you cant be serious.
the op thing is you shielder dont have to be carefull, you block evry single hit even boulder´s swing and keep walking. Now you fear you wont be OP nomore. Trust me you wont fail evry time after this suggestion but need more skill and act more carefull.