So are we going to let all trolls remove admins for nothing??

[Sephies]

I really want to hear your oppinions, since the admins gets voted off because people (like in the game) just vote yes if they see a poll.. We need more admins, not less. so please stop doing that abuze forum.. The admins can handle it internal and if it dosnt work, they must get removed.. Don't let all the trolls get you!

[Tristan]

If what you describe had actually happened I might agree with you.

But actually, very few has been nominated for vote, and those that do often make it anyway.

So I say keep it!

[Xant]

Aw yeah, 1 admin has been removed, this is MADNESS!!!! SOON WE WILL HAZ NO ADMINS LEFT

[Sephies]

Wow i thought we could have a mature talk here? My opinion stands. Look at how Lillith almost lost admin? i mean i have yet to see what he did wrong, and no one got proofs, but yet 50% or so voted yes..

[Xant]

And look at how Ptx wasn't even close to getting removed?

[Sephies]

Well why should they be close to be removed? none of them is doing wrong?

[Xant]

According to you, anyways. The general populace though Wooki was indeed "doing wrong" and voted to remove him.

[Blondin]

So players can make mistakes (even wrong behaviour) and it's only worth a warning or a temporary ban.
But if an admin make mistakes he lost immediatly his admin power forever...?

Something wrong in there.

Sorry to say that, but it's only griefers/haters that have problems with admin, all other players thanks admin to protect them from griefers.

Admin abooze forum is needed only for a bunch of griefers.

[Alex_C]

ISPCA has got it covered.

[verinen]

I really want to hear your oppinions, since the admins gets voted off because people (like in the game) just vote yes if they see a poll.. We need more admins, not less. so please stop doing that abuze forum.. The admins can handle it internal and if it dosnt work, they must get removed.. Don't let all the trolls get you!

I think the biggest part of trollz is in admin group.

[MrExxc]

I've had the feeling a week or two ago that their was a massive amount of people raging on every admin and not what. Now everyone seems to have changed their mind, they all want Wooki back, I mean why the hell did we start a vote in the first place? An admin isn't your friend, he has to punish people, and you might not agree with that.
The cRPG community has to learn to trust the admins and be responsible for their actions.

So players can make mistakes (even wrong behaviour) and it's only worth a warning or a temporary ban.
But if an admin make mistakes he lost immediatly his admin power forever...?

Hmmm, people expect to be treated right and a mistake might be hard to forget sometimes, being an admin is a tough job I reckon.

[Kophka]

The admin abuse and removal procedure can probably be worked on for streamlining/idiot prevention, but by no means should it be totally removed. Wooki is a funny guy, but IN HIS OWN WORDS, he banned people for stuff that happened outside of the game. People that he disliked personally, or people insulted him. An admins job is to enforce the rules in the game, not to arbitrarily ban people because "I don't feel he's a good member of the community". Notice that admins that do their job without letting personal feelings color their decisions didn't get removed, even though they got rage nominated. That's because no matter how low an opinion YOU have of our community, the vast majority of us are actually pretty decent human beings. This isn't 4chan, or something awful, we've got a pretty good group here, so have some faith in us, amigo. We know abuse and idiocy when we see it. 

[nuffen]

The removal of wooki was an error. Noticed how people aint unbanned in time anymore? Lots of people make threads about still being banned the day after the unban was scheduled. Why? Because you removed the one guy who cared to go through the banlist EVERY SINGLE DAY to check whos scheduled to be unbanned. Happy?

Dont give the decisions to those who have no clue what they're doing.

Also, both me and wooki got a lot of yes-votes from people who just wanted to see what happens. Shows how it doesnt work. Why not implent a proper feedback-system instead? I rarely get serious feedback from people, and the thread I made about "what to do if a guy tk" gave me a lot more useful feedback than the whole admin abuze (abuse an admin)-forum.

[Zisa]

Admin is a punishment not a privilege.

[Nemeth]

Lilith got most YESes (aside for Wooki) for simple reason. He is the most active admin. That means, there is a lot more people that rage at him for banning/kicking them and just vote yes. I for one have rarely seen for example ptx doing any admining in the last few weeks/months (mind you I'm playing on EU2 almost exclusively and by no means I'm saying he's not admining enough).
You can also see that ever since AngryScot was perma banned and hamleigh was banned se he could not comment of every single kick/ban, there are no more whining threads about " admin abooze". If the problem was in admins, the threads wouldn't stop by banning them. I'm actually pretty sure their numbers would rise. None of that happen though, so I guess the problem is somewhere else (yes, I'm looking at you, playerbase).