How to survive as pure melee?

[Prpavi]

im making a dedicated 2h build 24/15 and so far i find it hard to have a decent fight mabe every 5th map due to ranged.

im tempted to put the pointsn intended for IF in PT just so i can atleast scare some archers off the roof 

i really dont want to do that i want only my claymore/maul to do the work, but at this point seems inevitable.

So my question for the pure 2h/polearm ppl (if there are any) what do you do to survive the barrage of things flying towards you.

thx for the input.

p.s. i dont wanna carry a shield if possible

[Dinc4rr]

Carry a wooden shield, it doesn't need shield skill.Jump when archer gonna shoot at you.Won't be as protective as huscarl shield but it will be alot better than no shield.
Don't run alone in open field towards 3 archers- kinda style.
Being pure melee doesn't mean you are rambo berserker conan jesus.= when you face many ranged, let shielders take the field first.

[bruce]

The first to reply to you is a horse archer hahahah.

Btw, never jump when being shot. It's predictable where you will land and you can't start moving the same second. With a crossbow I always viewed it as a free kill.

[Torp]

You rely on strength which makes you slow and an easy target.

Get more agility and more athletics, follow the edge of the map around so your enemy don't see you and then hit them from behind and rape them in their tiny *****!

[Dinc4rr]

The first to reply to you is a horse archer hahahah.

Btw, never jump when being shot. It's predictable where you will land and you can't start moving the same second. With a crossbow I always viewed it as a free kill.

THat method perfectly works against archers tho.
Against crossbows not yea.
Just move randomly left and right and wait for the xbower to(hopefully) fail his shot.

[Z_E_N]

Best thing to do is to take cover and wait until the map dies down a bit.
 
2h really shines when its like 5v5 or 10v10

[Sir_Xormanec]

In order to dodge arrow fire
you have to do the whirlpool shuffle
(means do a 360 twist whislt moving led and right up and down)
also do not jump during this
you WILL BE SHOT

works only if you have decent footing skills and have not got a pure str build
and do some blocking and fake attacks
it makes it look cooler

[Wulzzz]

Best thing to do is to take cover and wait until the map dies down a bit.
 
2h really shines when its like 5v5 or 10v10

Exactly.
Many 2h just want to be conan and just ask for less ranged(preferably melee only server ofc)
lol... i kinda find each round at least one 2h user with a huge sword and no shield who wants to rush alone over open field...


Also: carry siege shields if you can..they don't need upkeep.
They are great support for your advancing teammate archers=bigger threat to the enemy ranged.

[EponiCo]

I have armor and IF, I just shrug most of them off. Well, that applies to arrows mostly, heavy crossbows and throwing still hurt like hell. But getting hit by heavy crossbow twice is kind of rare, throwers are a pain, but mostly someone else will look like an easy kill for them and you can rush them while they look the other way.
It's not really a problem getting many kills as pure 2h for me, but most rounds I die. I have no problem with that, though, you just wait a bit in cover, rush at the right moment and take as many people down with you as you can.

[Sphinxer]

At the start of the round , stick with a shielder and stay behind him , when you get a fight , support him 2 v 1 and make sure he lives !

To avoid throwers , if they throw stuff at you while you're closing in , jumping straight ahead toward them will help you .. why ? There's that bug where the hitbox of the legs isn't properly working while jumping so if the thrower aim at your body and you jump it often go through .. I get that a lot when people are fighting me.. they close to me then jump and there's nothing I can do except switch to melee.

Xbow are just a pain for everyone , sorry about that but they won't miss you twice , and if they do , they suck

So stick to someone who was a shield until he dies , then avoid open area.

[DKriza]

This topic is not about dodging, its about inability to hurt ranged on roofs, and game play as melee.
It is possible to play pure melee, but really annoying when only thing you can do is run around houses and wait for ranged to get down ( and that  never happens ).
And that is the main point, you have to put points in PT( or crossbow ), and make a hybrid, or dig yourself a grave at the end of the round.

[Prpavi]

First of all thx for the input some really usefull advice.

Secondly what Kriza said the inabillity to acces roof without a shiled is still a big issue say i survive the first 2 min. spamfest.

Example (happened today): there is 3 vs 5 situation were outnumbered and going quite well untill i noticed an archer on a inacessible roof meaning he or someone else torn down the ladder, but as the rules state he can be up there and spam out until hes the only one left, but he has an enormus influence on the battle, hes shooting at me chasing down somebody else. Now i have to hide and cant even try to eliminate him so tell me pls how can i deal with that? Should i just hide around witing for flags where he has advantage again? Or just build another agi xbow build and not worry about such things?

is pure melee build obsolete and outdated, is it all about the hybrids?

[Kophka]

Pure melee is actually still very viable. You're a 2 hander?

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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    * Strength: 21
    * Agility: 18
    * Hit points: 70

    * Converted: 8
    * Ironflesh: 7
    * Power Strike: 7
    * Athletics: 6
    * Weapon Master: 3

    * Two Handed: 132

No ranged, great speed, great strength, pretty damn tough. Pair it up with a claymore or war axe, and you're in the slayin' business.

[Kophka]

This topic is not about dodging, its about inability to hurt ranged on roofs, and game play as melee.
It is possible to play pure melee, but really annoying when only thing you can do is run around houses and wait for ranged to get down ( and that  never happens ).
And that is the main point, you have to put points in PT( or crossbow ), and make a hybrid, or dig yourself a grave at the end of the round.

Thankfully, there seems to be a new trend emerging for map makers by eliminating roofs and camp-towers, or making them much rarer, at least. Huzzah!

[Prpavi]

Pure melee is actually still very viable. You're a 2 hander?

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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    * Strength: 21
    * Agility: 18
    * Hit points: 70

    * Converted: 8
    * Ironflesh: 7
    * Power Strike: 7
    * Athletics: 6
    * Weapon Master: 3

    * Two Handed: 132

No ranged, great speed, great strength, pretty damn tough. Pair it up with a claymore or war axe, and you're in the slayin' business.

Well i might as well change my 24/15 buld to 21/18

im lvl 26 now so i still can get to 21/18 execpt i already have 5 in WM.

that still doesnt answer the roof huggers problem tho.