New 1h sword : Yataghan

[Grey]

hmmm, good work with the model, whoever made them (Noc?).
But IMO i think the yatagan needs some other colors, something like the wiki or google pics.
just some examples:

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And a handle. I didnt write guard or pommel, but look at how beautiful the handles of the weapons photographed are. A thing of beauty and function, so like bastard swords, katanas, etc, some times so plain and stark colour/material contrast as to be artirstic, sometimes so laboured on as to seem plain from afar, but covered with "scrollwork" (best translation I could find for what I mean) when viewed from close.


Also, as long as noone wants crazy stats, I see no reason why anyone would hate on what is basically a massive knife! Knifey knifey!

[BattalGazi]

Good job Nocti, an awesome modification would be adding some golden scripts on the handle and on the blade itself like the original ones. Then it would be truly majestic ;) I believe someone also noted that.

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Thanks for your efforts mate.

[Marshal_Nemesis]

Alright..it seems armor penetration thing doesnt satisfy some of our friends..at this rate i added this speciality to minor dmg bonus ..

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weight 1.50
requirement 9
spd rtng 99
weapon length 82
swing damage 34, cut
thrust damage 21 pierce


7,753 gold

*numbers can change

I am now comparing this to elite scimitar..

weight 1.25
requirement 7
spd rtng 99
weapon length 100
swing damage 31, cut
thrust damage 0 pierce

6,243 gold

[Noctivagant]

http://www.hermann-historica.de/auktion/hhm60.pl?db=kat60_m.txt&f=ZAEHLER&c=121&t=temartic_M_GB&co=11

These are the photos that I'll use to texture the weapon. They are super high resolution and perfect for the texture, normal maps, specs etc. takes about an hour (tops) in total
Then its ready.

[Dede]

I'm for it! (I support this from the bottom of my heart.)

@Noc
We know there are many variations of this weapon.
But the yataghan with the grip made from bone (with the typically ears at the grip) would be better. It has a better looking style, and the grip also makes it so special:

http://www.hermann-historica.de/auktion/hhm60.pl?db=kat60_m.txt&f=ZAEHLER&c=122&t=temartic_M_GB&co=18
http://www.hermann-historica.de/auktion/hhm60.pl?db=kat60_m.txt&f=ZAEHLER&c=124&t=temartic_M_GB&co=16
http://www.hermann-historica.de/auktion/hhm60.pl?db=kat60_m.txt&f=ZAEHLER&c=123&t=temartic_M_GB&co=17

However you'd have to edit them a little using Photoshop etc.. (The grips of the Yataghans have cracks, and are not as "bone-white" as original.)

I have uploaden an other high res. yataghan image for you. Actually, I had to do it before. But unfortunately, I have many orders and can create only a certain number of armor and helmets. And this only when I have some free time.

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PS: More good news for my Clan-Mates. I have completed an other helmet (solak), and am doing the Janissary helmet.

[Kophka]

http://www.hermann-historica.de/auktion/hhm60.pl?db=kat60_m.txt&f=ZAEHLER&c=121&t=temartic_M_GB&co=11

These are the photos that I'll use to texture the weapon. They are super high resolution and perfect for the texture, normal maps, specs etc. takes about an hour (tops) in total
Then its ready.

That's actually gorgeous, very well done Noctivagant, great find! Hope to see it in-game very soon, looking just like that.

[Akincibegi]

Against.


(Nothing personal, I just don't like 19th century weapons in the game.)

tai its not 19th century weapon Sultan Süleiman the Magnicifent had yataghans and this sent it to 16th century ofc the weapon yataghan has too many variaitions especially alexander the great swords or eagpytian sword was like yataghan.the point is yataghan was last varition of that sword style.bonus against armour its ok cus yataghan was used against heavily armoured knights for kill them.

[Diomedes]

I worry that a bonus against armour could be OP.  Perhaps high cut damage but low-average speed?  I dunno, other people are far better at stat stuff than I am.

I'm happy we're getting more middle-eastern-y weapons to complement the armours.  cRPG has great diversity but clustering is nice too sometimes   

[1slander]

What about lightsabers?  They could have a bonus against trolls.  Or maybe just different bonus' for different colours?

weight .25
requirement 6
spd rtng 141
weapon length 92
swing damage 104, cut
thrust damage 104 pierce


750,000,000 gold

[Marshal_Nemesis]

  So yataghan found some support from various sources..armor penetration thing seems to divert voters..so i am creating two version of stats..if admins decide to add yataghan to game they can choose the armor penetrating one(a new integration to the game and historicly accurate)..or the old style one(for game balance)..it is up to them now..

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weight 1.50

requirement 9

spd rtng 99

weapon length 82 (87,5 cm)

swing damage 33*, cut

thrust damage 21 pierce

*Armor penetration
+1 (34)dmg to chain mails
+2 (35)dmg to plate mails

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weight 1.50

requirement 9

spd rtng 99

weapon length 82 (87,5 cm)

swing damage 34, cut

thrust damage 21 pierce


7,753 gold

*Stats and price of the sword can change for balance

[Opium.dk]

+1 (34)dmg to chain mails
+2 (35)dmg to plate mails

Why would a long knife/sabre have bonus against mail or plate?

[BattalGazi]

PS: More good news for my Clan-Mates. I have completed an other helmet (solak), and am doing the Janissary helmet.

Oh yeah baby!

Why would a long knife/sabre have bonus against mail or plate?

Its the main reason behind yataghans' structure; to be able to inflict more damage due to its shape.

[Bjarky]

the yatagan should not have any kind of bonus, because by already having high cut damage just like an axe, it has gotten the so called bonus you guys talk about.
the yatagan's blade has a similar function like an light axe, it can penetrate leather, chainmail etc., but not plate armor just like an axe.
i know some of you guys have a great passion for this blade, but that dosn't mean it can/has have greater ability's than an pickaxe against armor.
we have to think about game balance guys, so don't push it 

so now don't kill me for saying this 

[Marshal_Nemesis]

the yatagan should not have any kind of bonus, because by already having high cut damage just like an axe, it has gotten the so called bonus you guys talk about.
the yatagan's blade has a similar function like an light axe, it can penetrate leather, chainmail etc., but not plate armor just like an axe.
i know some of you guys have a great passion for this blade, but that dosn't mean it can/has have greater ability's than an pickaxe against armor.
we have to think about game balance guys, so don't push it 

so now don't kill me for saying this 

Wise words my friend..

Because of this i presented 2 types of this sword.. it is up to admins now to use any of them for game balance..(or even adding it on 1h weapons)

As historical fact even i can not understand how a sword (60 cm - 90cm)can cut through plate armor..but if you go to Turkey or Bulgaria or Russia you can find evidence in their museum..plate armors cut with this sword (cause the engineering and idea was to have an edge for ottoman light infantry agains heavy armored western knights-Yatagan's sole purpose was to penetrate heavy armor..also to be a light weapon)

I just want to use this sword in cRPG nothing more.. 

[Opium.dk]

Its the main reason behind yataghans' structure; to be able to inflict more damage due to its shape.

Fancy words, but wheres the reason or science behind it?

Its just another knife, infact it should do far less damage vs mail or plate since its a ligt cut weapon.