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Do you want to see YATAGHAN in cRPG ?

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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2011, 04:35:27 pm »
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it's like a schimmy that can thrust  :shock: I want it! make it the high end version price a 10,000g tag on it and let em rip.
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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2011, 05:19:33 pm »
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I support addition of Yataghan sword, not only because I'm Turk :) but also the game needs some more eastern weapons and armors. There's already an ongoing discussion about Turkish armors and weapons in the forum: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,994.0.html

For those who disagree with the historical facts that yataghan is not medieval and therefore should not be added to the game, take a look at the side sword in the game. Its pretty much 15-17 th century which is no different than yataghan which is mid 16 - 19 th century ( according to wikipedia ) . I also would like to quote from wikipedia ( which is not a truly reliable source, but I'm using it because most people here take it as a source for their invalid arguments most of the times )
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... But today scholars indicate yataghan type blades were used by Turks earlier than 12th century. Recurve blades and "eared" handles can be traced back to Central Asia, where this type of bronze knves were found in several Bronze Age archeological sites.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yatagan

So, please stop being unnecessarily westernizer and enjoy the game with more variety.
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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2011, 05:39:52 pm »
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Well then I want that suit of armor along with that sword

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I already got the model of the sword somewhere...
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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2011, 02:37:56 am »
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  Yatağan is extremely supported  :idea:

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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2011, 03:01:12 am »
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make a poll  :D

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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2011, 05:33:48 am »
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Sure add the Yatagan in, but not with the bonus to armour, as I can hear the nerf cries from the 2 handers and polearm guys already.  :D

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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2011, 05:40:28 am »
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Sure add the Yatagan in, but not with the bonus to armour, as I can hear the nerf cries from the 2 handers and polearm guys already.  :D


It doesn't need the bonus vs armor, I think it should be a style choice, really. If you play an eastern type character, then use it. It should be fine with just shortsword stats, since we've got 2 nordic swords in the same space, just replace one of them with the yataghan (OR a kindjal, which could double as a gladius for the roman guys :D)
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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2011, 05:42:02 am »
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You still need someone to model it...
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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2011, 11:05:00 am »
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weight 1.50
requirement 7
spd rtng 99
weapon length 82
swing damage 34, cut
thrust damage 21 pierce
Bonus against Armor (not shield)

7,253 gold
*numbers can change

I am now comparing this to elite scimitar..

weight 1.25
requirement 7
spd rtng 99
weapon length 100
swing damage 31, cut
thrust damage 0 pierce

6,243 gold

Well..i will put a poll now and ofc any one willing to model this sword is more than welcome..

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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2011, 11:17:47 am »
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Translation : Yatagan without texture
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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #40 on: March 15, 2011, 11:27:24 am »
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Nomad Sabre much?
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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #41 on: March 15, 2011, 11:35:41 am »
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Whats this bonus against armour crap? If the sword is going to have a pierce stab attack, THAT IS IT's BONUS VS ARMOUR. I dont understand where the diea for a whole new mechanic for this weapon alone. I would like to see this weapon stulistically, simply because I like crpg for just that, everyone can look how they want, but saying things about how this sword will need an armour piercing bonus is the kind of thing that is going to guarantee it does NOT ever make it crpg....Just give it similar stats to niuweidao and a stabb attack, and its good to go. We are not reinventing the wheel here, just getting a new set of rims for the family hatchback.



Also, 1h is in a bad place now?? Ive not heard this before.....I can 1hit with left swing of my Sword of Whine (its still SWORD OF WHINE DONT CARE WHAT U SAY!!) vs most ppl in armour or not, and warhammer is supereffective, didnt even realise 1h was having a problem....
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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #42 on: March 15, 2011, 11:50:25 am »
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Dude chill out.. It is still WIP and as historical facts i am thinking of game mechanics too.. lets say armor bonus can be +2 dmg to plate armor and +1 to chainmail..nothing to break balance..only to bring new blood and taste to cRPG.. If you guys dont want it we can simply delete armor dmg bonus..meh.

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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #43 on: March 15, 2011, 12:00:10 pm »
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Look, I dont care: I will continue to play with no melee weapon at all, in a blue tunic, and do my thing, so this doesnt affect me, but if you want the sword included for aesthetic reasons, it might well be included, but giving it abilities no other weapon has is going to keep it out. I want to see it in, cause I think it looks cool, and goes well with eastern helmets etc....but hate for armour bonus new mechanic will mean it either goes in as any other weapon, or all other weapons need revisiting to see which need armour piercing bonus and which dont, prices revised, etc. I was just offering advice to those who want it in, but if it HAS to have a gimpy "bonus to armour" tag and you can write a new mechanic like that into the game, get it accepted by devteam and chadz, good luck to you.
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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #44 on: March 15, 2011, 12:04:20 pm »
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hmmm, good work with the model, whoever made them (Noc?).
But IMO i think the yatagan needs some other colors, something like the wiki or google pics.
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