New 1h sword : Yataghan

[Grey]

stab attack IS a swords armour piercing ability TBH IMO. But thinking about the sword again, maybe stats should be 76 length, 101 speed, 30 cut, 18 piercestab. Make it 1h knifeyknife chopfest weapon, very needed, Niuweidao is best option for this this now, so maybe price should be 3.5k, make it comparable, but less length and cut makes it cheaper, but stab keeps it useful.

[Marshal_Nemesis]

Ok now.. I can see some good comments and bad comments..mostly are about stats that can be change easily..some of them seems Ethnocentric issues(like we want more western not eastern)So i will keep research and development of this sword..

Historicals facst:
Specifications
Weight   ~0.85 kg
Length   ~0.75 m
Blade length   ~0.60 m

In service   16th-19th century
Used by   Ottoman Empire
Wars   Ottoman wars

single-edged, curved forward
pronged sideways towards pommel, no guard; typically made from horn, bone or metal (silver)

The yatagans used by janissaries (called varsak) and other infantry soldiers were smaller and lighter than ordinary swords so as not to hinder them when carried at the waist on the march.

In Ottoman period, yatagans were also made in all the major cities of the Ottoman Empire, particularly Istanbul, Bursa and Filibe.
One of the finest and earliest examples of the type was the weapon made for Suleyman the Magnificent, who ruled over the Ottoman Empire from 1522 to 1566. This sword now lies in the treasury of the Topkapi Palace in Istanbul and is of particular interest since it is not only dated 1526/7, but also has the name of the artist who made it, Ahmed Tekelü, on the back of the blade. The hilt is of ivory overlaid with gold delicately carved with cloudbands and scrolls.

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weight 1.50
requirement 7
spd rtng 99
weapon length 79
swing damage 34, cut
thrust damage 21 pierce
Bonus against Armor (not shield)

*numbers can change

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As i dig in history i found that this sword has many variations..like you can see in the picture there is some knife style yataghan (on the left) and swordlike yataghan.The first foundations of this sword lies even before ottoman empire which means Seljuks..

So..comments again?

[Diomedes]

Looks like the sword used in Alexander: http://www.kingofswords.com/images/alexandersword.jpg

[Marshal_Nemesis]

Looks like the sword used in Alexander: http://www.kingofswords.com/images/alexandersword.jpg

It is Greek Kopis.. daggerlike and shapelike it may resemble..

[Welcome_To_Hell]

Against.


(Nothing personal, I just don't like 19th century weapons in the game.)

This.

[Grey]

Why are people: a/ wanting more Euro trash, b/ moaning about historical dating of weapons. WE HAVE SIDE SWORD. Its ugly, overpowered, and is usually used with a huscarl shield, which makes it horrible to look at and so historically warped as to make archeologists vomit into their own mouths.

[Nemeth]

Why are people: a/ wanting more Euro trash, b/ moaning about historical dating of weapons. WE HAVE SIDE SWORD. Its ugly, overpowered, and is usually used with a huscarl shield, which makes it horrible to look at and so historically warped as to make archeologists vomit into their own mouths.

I can't believe I agree with Grey, but he has a point. Also, it was pointed out the sword was used earlier, not only mentioned 19th century.

[MountedRhader]

Turkish weapons.. I like!
How would they make this.. Take an elite scimi and invert it? 

[Bobthehero]

Euro stuff is great why do people ask for Eastern trash eh?

[Bjarky]

For those who like euro stuff, just make a new thread with your suggestion 
Calradia has numerous styles from the north, east, south and west (all of europe, mediterran, middle east and so on...).
There's no monopoly on what place the gear has to come from.

[Marshal_Nemesis]

Ottoman empire became the most powerful force in middle age..Yataghan has it's role in this..

[Opium.dk]

weight 1.50
requirement 7
spd rtng 99
weapon length 79
swing damage 34, cut
thrust damage 21 pierce
Bonus against Armor (not shield)

*numbers can change

As i dig in history i found that this sword has many variations..like you can see in the picture there is some knife style yataghan (on the left) and swordlike yataghan.The first foundations of this sword lies even before ottoman empire which means Seljuks..

So..comments again?

Its pretty much another scimitar. Im not against new weapons but the stats you give it are ridiculos and as wiki states "The majority of yatagans date from the period 1750-1860"

1750 is a long way from medieval.

[Marshal_Nemesis]

LOL?!

Here is the Wiki page for yataghan...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yatagan

It clearly dictates 16th - 19th... commonly..

If you look directly to the bot of page on wiki..it states: One of the finest and earliest examples of the type was the weapon made for Suleyman the Magnificent, who ruled over the Ottoman Empire from 1522 to 1566.

1522?? clearly middle ages..

[Diomedes]

I don't get it.  Why do we care so much about historical accuracy when the game takes place on an imaginary planet where everyone speaks English and there are six completely distinct and homogeneous ethno-cultural groups within five days ride from one another.  We crossed a definite line when the samurai picked up huscarl shields; and I don't think there' much to be lost be implementing a sword from 1522.

[Casimir]

Cut should never have bonus against armour. Not one weapon anyway. This suggestion would disrupt game balance and as the current situation with 1h is rather crappy ATM i think it should be balanced before we introduce new modifiers which could screw the balance further.

Also more western equipment first.