OP Sidesword

[xcascadex]

Yes this sword is ridiculous, I refused to heirloom it three times instead of my grosse messer because I hate bogus cheap weapons. The sidesword basically has range, speed, and damage. You can't HAVE ALL THREE without sacrificing one, it just makes no sense, and including the piercing which is ridiculously high. This sword should either be slower or less damage, because after heirloom it's just OP.

[Gorath]

if your going to nerf it, just nerf the speed, leave damage alone

 

Man.  It's a fairy little renaissance rapier looking sword.  The cut damage it has is stupid and illogical.  It only does 1 less damage than the niewiedao (sp?) which is a heavy cleaving blade, only 3 less than the frickin cleaver.  It makes no sense whatsoever.

[Kalam]

Man.  It's a fairy little renaissance rapier looking sword.  The cut damage it has is stupid and illogical.  It only does 1 less damage than the niewiedao (sp?) which is a heavy cleaving blade, only 3 less than the frickin cleaver.  It makes no sense whatsoever.

x2.

I like fairy-like renaissance type swords, but I do believe they should get thrust damage and crappy ass cut damage, much like the regular espada.

[Gorath]

x2.

I like fairy-like renaissance type swords, but I do believe they should get thrust damage and crappy ass cut damage, much like the regular espada.

Indeed.  Good thrust damage and speed with crappy cut?  Fits the style of the sword.

[Karmazyn]

Its not a rapier, its palash like backsword.

[Michael]

Even the most stupid person in this community should know by now that a mediocre player going polearm-spammer or twohandstabber or crushthroughretard will be on top of the scoreboard all the time.

It is so easy to kill a 1h in 1 vs 1

- outspam (katana)

- spam swing run and backpedal (long hafted blade, maces etc.)

- destroy his shield with one hit (poleaxes, great long axe)

- crush through his shield (barmace)

- dance circle backpedal and stab (greatsword)

- super nerd authistic feint spam (awlpikes)

All these options are totally easy to do and need absolutely no "skill".

In a "normal" battle with my 1h I need 3 or 4 shields, with shield skill 5, and against most of the enemies I am even fighting without shield because its easier.

With 7 powerstrike I need 4 hits on the average 2h/poleguy, I have to block him many many times, and one single mistake what doesnt take much with my horrible internet connection and the general crpg lag and stuttering animations and my girl is dead.

Its silly to discuss 1h and overpowered, its the class thats hardest to play. (Maybe except some weird people who choose to play with pike only and fight 1 vs 1 all the time against shielders but thats their problem for being a nerd and not understanding their role on the battlefield).


On realism, there are many ridiculous things in this arcade game, be it 2h stab with 6 yards reach or run around and spam your huge sword or axe with an insane speed and never getting tired. 

[Gorath]

Its not a rapier, its palash like backsword.

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Whatever, still a thin little fencer type blade.  No reason it should cut like a cutting sword (arming, broadsword style blades, cleavers/chinese sabres, etc).

In a "normal" battle with my 1h I need 3 or 4 shields

This is simply because you are by far, the WORST player in c-RPG and most likely all of M&B:Warband in general.

[Karmazyn]

Side sword.
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Its not a rapier.

[Lars]

haven't real all posts, but... if you think sidesword should be nerfed,most of 2h weapons should be nerfed too Imho.

[IG_Saint]

Even the most stupid person in this community should know by now that a mediocre player going polearm-spammer or twohandstabber or crushthroughretard will be on top of the scoreboard all the time.

It is so easy to kill a 1h in 1 vs 1

- outspam (katana)

Block, counter attack, win (if its a ninja, against people that wear armour you might have to repeat)

- spam swing run and backpedal (long hafted blade, maces etc.)

Dont play into his game, let him backpedal out of reach and then turn and run for teammates. Or block, block, counter attack/feint, win.

- destroy his shield with one hit (poleaxes, great long axe)

The counter to shields kills shield users? Wow, who'd have thought.

- crush through his shield (barmace)

Barmace is being nerfed. Currently is completely ridiculous.

- dance circle backpedal and stab (greatsword)

somewhat agree, but completely unrelated to 1hs. Again good blocking and feints should be enough to see you through. If you have good blocking and feints and still got beat you just got outplayed.

- super nerd authistic feint spam (awlpikes)

Hold right mouse button down till you hear the "thump". Also spam works excellent against people that feint too much.

All these options are totally easy to do and need absolutely no "skill".

And are totally easy to defeat.

In a "normal" battle with my 1h I need 3 or 4 shields, with shield skill 5, and against most of the enemies I am even fighting without shield because its easier.

You're doing it wrong.

With 7 powerstrike I need 4 hits on the average 2h/poleguy, I have to block him many many times, and one single mistake what doesnt take much with my horrible internet connection and the general crpg lag and stuttering animations and my girl is dead.

Nice, so we should buff 1hs to compensate for your crappy connection and pc? Oh and if you're getting killed in 1 hit, get some decent armour.

Its silly to discuss 1h and overpowered, its the class thats hardest to play. (Maybe except some weird people who choose to play with pike only and fight 1 vs 1 all the time against shielders but thats their problem for being a nerd and not understanding their role on the battlefield).

Always classy calling someone a nerd on a gaming forum. Psst, you're posting on a gaming forum, you're a nerd as well.

On realism, there are many ridiculous things in this arcade game, be it 2h stab with 6 yards reach or run around and spam your huge sword or axe with an insane speed and never getting tired.

[UrLukur]

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IX.8 From Venezia (CX 1997)
This Italian specimen is dated circa 1480. It measures 39" overall and has a 32.5" long blade with a maker's mark by master Pippo

It's quite clearly it's hilt orginated from this. I think Shredzorz just got the lazy way on blade and reused type XVIII used in italian sword (or did similar)(but he thined it down to fit the hilt). It's clearly thin type XVIII blade, not designed to perform powerful cuts.

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Now find out that italian sword is broader, thus should have better swing (have 30c).

[Gorath]

Side sword.
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Its not a rapier.

Look at the designs.  Here's another one.
Side sword
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Practice Arma Side sword
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Side sword
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Side sword
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32 cut...

Arming sword
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32 cut...  other than 7 range completely replaced and outclassed by the side sword.

And then real cutting swords
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33 cut.... only 1 more cut, massive reach deduction and the same speed.... wtf

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33 cut, only 1 more than the side katana, less range, less speed, less thrust.  Most importantly, only ONE more cut damage

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Only 3 more cut damage
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Anyways the point of it all:  Side sword cut damage is stupid and illogical in comparision to the other 1h'd swords.  Not only that but it's indictive of an internal balance issue with the whole 1her line.

[DrTaco]

I think there are more pressing matters then people getting owned from a good dueler.

[Vibe]

Even the most stupid person in this community should know by now that a mediocre player going polearm-spammer or twohandstabber or crushthroughretard will be on top of the scoreboard all the time.

It is so easy to kill a 1h in 1 vs 1

- outspam (katana)

- spam swing run and backpedal (long hafted blade, maces etc.)

- destroy his shield with one hit (poleaxes, great long axe)

- crush through his shield (barmace)

- dance circle backpedal and stab (greatsword)

- super nerd authistic feint spam (awlpikes)

All these options are totally easy to do and need absolutely no "skill".

In a "normal" battle with my 1h I need 3 or 4 shields, with shield skill 5, and against most of the enemies I am even fighting without shield because its easier.

With 7 powerstrike I need 4 hits on the average 2h/poleguy, I have to block him many many times, and one single mistake what doesnt take much with my horrible internet connection and the general crpg lag and stuttering animations and my girl is dead.

Its silly to discuss 1h and overpowered, its the class thats hardest to play. (Maybe except some weird people who choose to play with pike only and fight 1 vs 1 all the time against shielders but thats their problem for being a nerd and not understanding their role on the battlefield).


On realism, there are many ridiculous things in this arcade game, be it 2h stab with 6 yards reach or run around and spam your huge sword or axe with an insane speed and never getting tired.

Olol not this shit again.

L2P seriously. Any half decent Sword&Board can kill a good 2 hander.

[Kalam]

Olol not this shit again.

L2P seriously. Any half decent Sword&Board can kill a good 2 hander.

If seeing players constantly switch builds has taught me anything, it's this: any good player in a melee build is perfectly capable of killing everyone else.