Excessive Glancing with 1 hand weapons

[polkafranzi]

Has anyone else noticed that 1 handers glance many many times more often then 2 handers.  For example, today I was playing with my main with a master work arabian cav sword 36 cut damage with 7 Power Strike, and I kept glancing off, the last round I played I glanced off 6 times ( including 2 off of Voester's thick head), very frustrating.

Compare this to my alt 2 hander also with 7 Power strike also with 36 damage (longsword) and I never glance with him.  Anyone else noticed this? And anyone else finds this a bit odd?

 

I dunno man, I think it's about skill, otherwise Royalknight Ito Ittosai or wutever he's called wouldn't be be going 50-4 on every map...2h'ers lagging behind 

[Kansuke]

The main problem is on the 1h stab, it glance way too much with sword, if you don't turn into your stab you have no chance of hurting your opponent while 2h can stand straight stab and it won't glance which imho is bullshit if you consider how it is in real life where it's much easier to stab with a 1h.
This game and crpg are pretty much fucked on this level, you can swing a flammerge like if it was chopsticks.
Atm with my sword which does 24 damage trust combined with 8 PS my swing will glance 50% of the time against an opponent who has more than 40 armor.

[Uumdi]

Another note that's worth stressing is charging your swings for that second-long time window.  Is it 1 second, or 1 1/2, I forget, but you're character will let out an oh-so-manly grunt that gives you an extremely high damage bonus, like 30 or 50%.  Holding your swings on occasion helps a ton.

And if you play dirty like me, aim for the face and even the lower body.  I'm always always going for the face, but I think that's just cuz I'm a jerk.  I'd say I have no trouble glancing because I use a giant spear/hook, but I made a 3 PS wakizashi STF, and was getting hits on goretooth.

Probably for 1-5 damage... and he swatted me out of the air soon after, but the hits went through I swear to you!

[Vodner]

Another note that's worth stressing is charging your swings for that second-long time window.  Is it 1 second, or 1 1/2, I forget, but you're character will let out an oh-so-manly grunt that gives you an extremely high damage bonus, like 30 or 50%.  Holding your swings on occasion helps a ton.

Between 0 and 0.5 seconds, the bonus linearly scales from 0% to 50%. Holding for 0.5-0.6 seconds will give you a 50% bonus. After 0.6 seconds, the bonus linearly scales down to 20% at 1.1 seconds.

[Turboflex]

I find pierce 1h glance less. Really nice to have a weapon with alternate like broad 1h axe for heavy armour guys who I would glance like crazy off in slash mode.

[Laufknoten]

I dunno man, I think it's about skill, otherwise Royalknight Ito Ittosai or wutever he's called wouldn't be be going 50-4 on every map...2h'ers lagging behind 

Well, the MW NCS is obviously the way to go. He's a great player and shows this every map, but he wouldn't pull out stats like that with an unloomed espada. Still I don't know why he's so god damn fast with this sword. 
NCS and Elite scim are the top 1h swords without a doubt. While there is only one long espada user on the map, there are usually 5 or more elite scim users. 1h price balance is just fail, elite scim and NCS should be the most expensive 1h swords.

[Spawny]

Well, the MW NCS is obviously the way to go. He's a great player and shows this every map, but he wouldn't pull out stats like that with an unloomed espada. Still I don't know why he's so god damn fast with this sword. 
NCS and Elite scim are the top 1h swords without a doubt. While there is only one long espada user on the map, there are usually 5 or more elite scim users. 1h price balance is just fail, elite scim and NCS should be the most expensive 1h swords.

The long espada is so expensive because it's meant to be used without a shield, making it effectively cheaper than a NCS/Shield combination.

[Laufknoten]

The long espada is so expensive because it's meant to be used without a shield, making it effectively cheaper than a NCS/Shield combination.

If that's the justification for the price - okay. But still I rarely see people using it either with or without a shield. The NCS' or Elite Scims are a better choice, even though I really like the long espada. A mw ncs has stats close to the 2h swords damage wise and the high cut makes it much more viable, while the elite scim is a weapon even a chimp would be successful with. They are both more efficient and easier to use, which is also shown by their "overuseness" and therefore they should be more expensive than the LEE imo.

[hippy_with_a_scimi]

If that's the justification for the price - okay. But still I rarely see people using it either with or without a shield. The NCS' or Elite Scims are a better choice, even though I really like the long espada. A mw ncs has stats close to the 2h swords damage wise and the high cut makes it much more viable, while the elite scim is a weapon even a chimp would be successful with. They are both more efficient and easier to use, which is also shown by their "overuseness" and therefore they should be more expensive than the LEE imo.

the scimi damage is not that great anymore to justify a price increase , beside there is tons of better choices out there nowadays like the LEE or the italian

[Gurnisson]

If that's the justification for the price - okay. But still I rarely see people using it either with or without a shield. The NCS' or Elite Scims are a better choice, even though I really like the long espada. A mw ncs has stats close to the 2h swords damage wise and the high cut makes it much more viable, while the elite scim is a weapon even a chimp would be successful with. They are both more efficient and easier to use, which is also shown by their "overuseness" and therefore they should be more expensive than the LEE imo.

Italian Sword is better than both NCS and Elite Scimi and it's also cheaper.

[Zerobot1]

Sorry but you're nuts if you think 1h needs any sort of buff.

[Camaris]

The long espada is so expensive because it's meant to be used without a shield, making it effectively cheaper than a NCS/Shield combination.

I know lots of people will come and say how op LEE is but i still think that NCS and KAS are superior even if you use them without shield.
1h stab is worst 1h attack. It doesnt make it better that it rocks if you do full damage from time to time. LEE would be fine if Stab would be fine.
It isnt => LEE is a specialist weapon for those who managed to learn  how to stab and if you look at the servers i hardly see people succeding.

[Tindel]

Im one of the people who can stab with 1h, i pretty much only use the LEE +shield.

I would like it lowered in price, cause it is unfairly expensive. Italian sword, elite scimitar, warhammer, steel pick,  these weapons ought to cost more than a LEE.


So i can wear plate...........   

[Vibe]

The main problem is on the 1h stab, it glance way too much with sword, if you don't turn into your stab you have no chance of hurting your opponent while 2h can stand straight stab and it won't glance which imho is bullshit if you consider how it is in real life where it's much easier to stab with a 1h.

This. My long espada glanced today at perfect range/positioning, but I didn't spin it. What a load of BS

[Gurnisson]

I have no problem using 1H stab. I've used stab with grosse messer, italian sword and regular espada. Works fine.