Excessive Glancing with 1 hand weapons

[BlindGuy]

I have no problem using 1H stab. I've used stab with grosse messer, italian sword and regular espada. Works fine.

FINE? 1hand stab is the best looking and most win way of killing the last enemy and winning the round, the map and hitting  lvl 31 all at one time! LOVE 1handed stab!

[Xant]

This. My long espada glanced today at perfect range/positioning, but I didn't spin it. What a load of BS

I'd like to see you stab with your "long espada" ;)

[Mlekce]

Has anyone else noticed that 1 handers glance many many times more often then 2 handers.  For example, today I was playing with my main with a master work arabian cav sword 36 cut damage with 7 Power Strike, and I kept glancing off, the last round I played I glanced off 6 times ( including 2 off of Voester's thick head), very frustrating.

Compare this to my alt 2 hander also with 7 Power strike also with 36 damage (longsword) and I never glance with him.  Anyone else noticed this? And anyone else finds this a bit odd?

 

My balased scimitar glance every time i hit someone with heavy armor if i aim for body. never glance when i hit head,and no head armor can protect tincans from my scimitar.

[Laufknoten]

I have no problem using 1H stab. I've used stab with grosse messer, italian sword and regular espada. Works fine.

It works fine and if you know how to use it, even the butter knife Espada Eslavona is devastating. But compared to the 2h swords the 1h stab is laughable...

[BlindGuy]

It works fine and if you know how to use it, even the butter knife Espada Eslavona is devastating. But compared to the 2h swords the 1h stab is laughable...

Yes but I often kill ppl with Knife and Dagger (not long dagger, thats a trendy shit) cause the 1handed stab is so boss.

[Phew]

Right-to-left 1h swing glances way too much, even with perfect range/position. Left-to-right and overhead don't seem to suffer from this malady.

1h thrust, on the other hand, is just totally unpredictable. If you actually aim it at the guy, it will glance. So you have to aim it in some random direction then spin into your target. People rage at this maneuver, but it's only done because it's the only way to not glance with the 1h thrust. On top of this, there is no rhyme or reason to the 1h thrust hitbox calculation; sometime I can thrust directly into some AFK guy's skull and it misses, then another time I'll thrust and headshot some guy like 6ft off to my right.

2h is so popular because the animations are reliable; they don't glance unless you really screw up, and the hitboxes are logical. Every 1h thrust/right swing attempt is a potentially suicide.

[MrShine]

Right-to-left 1h swing glances way too much, even with perfect range/position. Left-to-right and overhead don't seem to suffer from this malady.

I still have to get the whole 1h thrust down, but I don't think the right-to-left glances if you have the target in the proper location.

Normally for the left to right swing you can have the target more to the left of you, but the right-to-left requires the target to be centered.

Example:   X = enemy,  O = you.

Proper left-to-right swing location.

X
  O

Proper right-to-left swing location.

   X
   O

NOT

       X
    O

Right swing can really come in handy, especially given how its surprising range can catch people unexpectedly.  But I've been able to land most of my right swings so far with my 5 PS.

[Turboflex]

Good post MrShine, explains it well. I think this makes sense since your "forehand" shot  needs more of a wind-up since the point of contact is further away from you. It's definitely tricky to use, but you can use it deceptively, start your swing when you are turned away from opponent and then turn into it so you centre on him at contact point, you can catch a lot of people who assume you've missed and start their own attack.

[rustyspoon]

Honestly, I rarely glance with a 1h and I have only 6 ps. Generally if I glance, it's because I made a mistake.

The big problem with 1-handers is they will often glance if you're being face-hugged. 2 handers glance much less from that range. It's kind of ironic that 2-handers perform better at really close range than 1-h swords.

That's one reason why I have 7 athletics. I can always keep opponents at the perfect range for me.

[Dezilagel]

That's one reason why I have 7 athletics. I can always keep opponents at the perfect range for me.

NA ninja build 

[Thovex]

Honestly, I rarely glance with a 1h and I have only 6 ps. Generally if I glance, it's because I made a mistake.

The big problem with 1-handers is they will often glance if you're being face-hugged. 2 handers glance much less from that range. It's kind of ironic that 2-handers perform better at really close range than 1-h swords.

That's one reason why I have 7 athletics. I can always keep opponents at the perfect range for me.

I think you'll need atleast 10 if you play in EU.

[Xant]

If someone facehugs you, press e.

[San]

Athletics is pretty hard to acquire if you're 1h, to be honest.


I think a good general area for right swing is slightly to your right, but not much more. It's much easier to hit if you're not even looking at your opponent and more to the side, too.


There are people who are amazing with the 1h stab that make it difficult to force glances, but I do think it's a little weak compared to the other directions. You do feel cool when you kill people with them, though.


What's aggravating is when the short 1hs overhead glance since it doesn't make sense for the animation. (or miss, but that's more weird hitboxes)

[Dravic]

I think you'll need atleast 10 if you play in EU.

Fortunately, he is from NA.

I played NA a bit today, and even with 140+ ping I could make quite a positive ratio on most of maps...

... with 12str 4pt thrower.

Yes, I did actually hit them 90% of time and every guy took from 1 to 4 axes.

You ask me, how could I be accurate with throwing(!) with such a high ping (!!)? Low athletics of players...

[BlueKnight]

Naa, with a practice 2h sword and low PS my swings have nearly never glanced off.

blunt dmg is blunt dmg....