Mass Effect 3

[Darkoveride]

I liked the ending. its that element of thinking after 3 games you had the whole thing figured out, in comes god child screws you over with adding another layer of complexness.
It bieng left on a cliffhanger is no different from fallout 3, and as many have speculated and im inclined to agree was the entire end sequence is shepard fighting against reaper indoctrination (subtle hints about that).

Everything will be made clear in dlc im sure and i know alot of people will rage about that but its nice to get meaningful dlc for a change.

GK wisdom speaking hear listen to it closely.

[Overdriven]

This should be required reading. This article outlines people's complaints perfectly and in a fairly objective manner. Not the 'me3 fans are spoilt brats' spiel that IGN has been spitting out.

http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/

[Darkoveride]

meh article everyones thinking in black and white in relation to the ending, look closer there are subtle hints that suggest that the ending is false, watch the ending sequence starting from when you get knocked down. there are also other hints throughout the game. im damn near 99.9 % sure that the ending is a case of indoctrination.

[Mala]

Then i still miss the "You have failed" screen.

[bilwit]

False or not, it's a complete farce and a waste of people's time either way. It should have ended as Shepard pushes the console to open up the citadel, followed by an end cinematic and some epilogue text describing the outcome of your decisions ala Dragon Age. As it is now it's either "thx for playing, sux d00d" or "lol you have to wait for the DLC in the coming months."

There was not nearly enough Jack in this game to justify all this bullshit.

[Nessaj]

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Mass Effect 3: Deleted Squad Death Scene

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No doubt they'll go for the Indoctrination route as an explanation for the ending, why else delete this scene unless it didn't happen.

[Tears of Destiny]

- complex dialogs. cut down to 2 choices, because it's cheaper, and won't affect sales numbers drastically.

 

I... But that is the reason why I loved ME1 and ME2...

Someone say chadz is exaggerating, please 

Piffle sniffle...

[GreasySausageSandwhich]

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Indoctrination theory wins it for me.

Though I think the scene where everyone gets off the ship is real, not induced by the Reapers.  A few of the characters mention a tropical vacation after "this is all over".  It's also weird to me that if you get the best ending and Shepard survives, he wakes up in the rubble on London?  We should know after the second game what happens to Shepards who fall planetside from space.  They become mashed potato.  Just doesn't fit.  Too many holes for there not to be a trick.  I mean some of the plot holes are just too obvious.

I think there be DLC a-comin'.

[Wookimonsta]

GODDAMIT PENNY ARCADE

the guys from penny arcade know some of the devs from Bioware and spoiled the fucking ending

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[Ninja_Khorin]

Spoilering just in case someone doesn't want to read the ending.

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The ending sort of made it feel like a waste spending so much time talking to people and being nice. I could've been a dick and shot everyone and still become the great Shepard in the future, being worshipped by my offspring. What a waste. And what the heck was Normandy doing between Mass Relays? I thought they were fighting at Earth.

Also, kind of a shame that you didn't really get any closure on any of the characters. I wouldn't have minded the standard boxes of text with the stories of what happened to all the characters.

[Overdriven]

Big but worth it.

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O and more importantly:

There’s been a lot of discussion and debate about the conclusion of Mass Effect 3, so I thought I’d share my  perspective with you here. I’ll avoid outright spoilers, but I’d still recommend finishing the game and experiencing it for yourself before reading this. 

For the last eight years, Mass Effect  has been a labor of love for our team; love for the characters we’ve created, for the medium of video games, and for the fans that have supported us.  For us and for you, Mass Effect 3 had to live up to a lot of expectations, not only for a great gaming experience, but for a resolution to the countless storylines and decisions you’ve made as a player since the journey began in 2007. So we designed Mass Effect 3 to be a series of endings to key plots and storylines, each culminating in scenes that show you the consequences of your actions.  You then carry the knowledge of these consequences with you as you complete the final moments of your journey.

We always intended that the scale of the conflict and the underlying theme of sacrifice would lead to a bittersweet ending—to do otherwise would betray the agonizing decisions Shepard had to make along the way.  Still, we wanted to give players the chance to experience an inspiring and uplifting ending; in a story where you face a hopeless struggle for basic survival, we see the final moments and imagery as offering victory and hope in the context of sacrifice and reflection.

We've had some incredibly positive reactions to Mass Effect 3, from the New York Times declaring it “a gripping, coherent triumph”, to Penny Arcade calling it “an amazing accomplishment”, to emails and tweets from players who have given us the most profound words of appreciation we've ever received.   

But we also recognize that some of our most passionate fans needed more closure, more answers, and more time to say goodbye to their stories—and these comments are equally valid. Player feedback such as this has always been an essential ingredient in the development of the series.

I am extremely proud of what this team has accomplished, from the first art concepts for the Mass Effect universe to the final moments of Mass Effect 3.  But we didn't do it on our own.  Over the course of the series, Mass Effect has been a shared experience between the development team and our fans—not just a shared experience in playing the games, but in designing and developing them.  An outpouring of love for Garrus and Tali led to their inclusion as love interests in Mass Effect 2.  A request for deeper RPG systems led to key design changes in Mass Effect 3.  Your feedback has always mattered.  Mass Effect is a collaboration between developers and players, and we continue to listen.

So where do we go from here? Throughout the next year, we will support Mass Effect 3 by working on new  content.  And we’ll keep listening, because your insights and constructive feedback will help determine what that content should be. This is not the last you’ll hear of Commander Shepard. 

We look forward to your continued support and involvement as we work together to shape the remaining experiences in the story of the Mass Effect trilogy.

Thanks for taking this journey with us.
 
Casey Hudson

So basically he doesn't really say anything.

Funny...it's reached full release and now the Japanese fans have added their concerns over the ending. I wonder how long they can deflect the issue.

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

I suppose you are being sarcastic. I have never ever before seen someone clutching at straws like this. You are simply converting plot holes into a full fletched game studio conspiracy theory.

So I just finished the game, and of course it's not all bad. If it were standalone, with no predecessors to live up to, it would have been ok-ish.

But here is the problem: you can clearly see that it's the last episode of a trilogy. you can see the financial decisions in the background so obviously it hurts.
- complex dialogs. cut down to 2 choices, because it's cheaper, and won't affect sales numbers drastically.
- amount of different skills. cut down, because it's cheaper, and won't affect sales numbers drastically.
- amount of decisions that change the gameplay. cut down, because it's cheaper, and won't affect sales numbers drastically.
- mini games / side quests. cut down, because it's cheaper, and won't affect sales numbers drastically.
- decisions affecting the endings. Maybe it's Hey we now make a genious ending to this game. However, we cover it up entirely and let the player dream a shit ending. We can then laugh at all the stupid guys who don't get it. And eventually we release the REAL ENDING for free just to show everyone that they were wrong!
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cut down, because it's cheaper, and won't affect sales numbers drastically.

It's a perfectly rational decision. It's a trilogy, they don't give a fuck if you liked the last one or not. The cash cow has come to an end. Also, I don't think it's bioware to blame here (fully), they are controlled by EA, and EA says cut spendings while keeping income stable. Perfectly rational. Although they probably didn't expect a backfire like this.

(And apart from that, the only ending I can think of that's worse than the current one [whatever color], is the most cliche one: IT WAS ALL A DREAM! WHAT YOU SAW HAD AS MUCH MEANING AS ANY FANFIC! It's completely open what really happened! For all you know, you could be the boy in a school class in london in 2012 that fell asleep durig physics class and made up ME1-ME3 in his head! Just provide a schoolbell sound at the end via 10$ DLC and we're set!)

The worst Indian Jones film made the most money. The forth one. Once you know an enterprise like this is going to end you really don't have to try. Games and movies have 1 major thing in common, nearly all the money you make on AAA films/titles comes in the first 1-2 weeks. After that its a dribble of cash that no one cares about.

Basically the first game needs to be good and if possible the second one needs to be great and then you just don't have to give a shit about the third. Valve seem to be one of the few big companies bucking that trend but then again its been a fucking long time between drinks. ie where is my third fucking episode you fucking FUCKS!

[Darkkarma]

So long as we are speculating towards the endings and what they meant.


] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynYgr1rqEec&feature=endscreen&NR=1]

[Loar Avel]

A good laugh about the ME3 ending

the name of the video is
Mass Effect 3 - Ending Movie Comparison - All the Colors

If you don't want to be spoiled, don't watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPelM2hwhJA

[Ujin]

dont watch if you dont wanna see spoilers.



best indoctrination theory videos out there :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbghjn7_Byc&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ythY_GkEBck