archery..

[Meow]

Thanks for proving my point of you being incapable to understand of what people write.

Start reading stuff more careful and think about what people tried to tell you before you type down a reply that does not even scratch what the other person said.

So what's your 135hp build?
Not even gonna keep arguing about the whole archer thing with you, just wondering how 135hp work out.
Sounds like an epic build.

[Tzar]

geezz forgot to write pony

also yeah that would be an epic build..

I didn't comment your post i just tried to explain why you might find archery so hard since you don't seem to be arsed dodging or kiting like all the others..

also the rest i wrote was regarding the whole archery thingy thread i didn't see the thread was named debate with meow about archery wtf are you some kind of a attention whore? you played with your archer alt for what? a week ? yet you seem to know everything there is about archery..

i just posted my own experience take it as trash talk or valid points idc lol

Regarding the dmg well most of us with balanced builds do get 2 shotted by body shots we arent all str stacking like lets say meow..

[Teeth]

OBVIOUSLY thats not a battle pic man, Ppl are claiming they get 2 hit bodyshot with 50 armour, THATS A FUCKING LIE, unless they have run into a  39 STR archer with a MW longbow and bodkins, and there are not many of those about.

Happens to me occasionally with 60 body armour.

[Leshma]

Heh, what to do. To tell the truth or to continue being Meow's spokesperson?

[Siiem]

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[Zerran]

Happens to me occasionally with 60 body armour.

Indeed. I've got 56 body armor, 21 str and 6 IF. Not too uncommon for me to have 60% of my health taken away from a single body shot, if it's at close range with one of the 2 slot bows.

[Dravic]

Thanks for proving my point of you being incapable to understand of what people write.

Start reading stuff more careful and think about what people tried to tell you before you type down a reply that does not even scratch what the other person said.

So what's your 135hp build?
Not even gonna keep arguing about the whole archer thing with you, just wondering how 135hp work out.
Sounds like an epic build.

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 39
Agility: 3
Hit points: 100
Skills to attributes: 14
Ironflesh: 13
Power Strike: 4
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 0
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 111
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

Not THAT far. But still, 35 is missing. Maybe such build, then:

Level 36 (284 556 896 xp)

Strength: 45
Agility: 3
Hit points: 110
Skills to attributes: 14
Ironflesh: 15
Power Strike: 8
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 0
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 111
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

Only 25hp missing.

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Thanks for proving my point of you being incapable to understand of what people write.

Start reading stuff more careful and think about what people tried to tell you before you type down a reply that does not even scratch what the other person said.

So what's your 135hp build?
Not even gonna keep arguing about the whole archer thing with you, just wondering how 135hp work out.
Sounds like an epic build.

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[Tzar]

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You would be doing me a favor

[_Tak_]

Indeed. I've got 56 body armor, 21 str and 6 IF. Not too uncommon for me to have 60% of my health taken away from a single body shot, if it's at close range with one of the 2 slot bows.

that's not true, i have 30 body armor and i got shot by zerobot and i still have my 50% hp left. As many people have said here some archer do go for 7+ Power Draw which can do some serious damage. Stop complaining about ranged, they nearly have been nerf to the ground (Aka HA), i think its time to nerf infantry and let see how many dumbass will complain again

[Leshma]

I have 24 body armor and I don't die from one arrow, sometimes not even from two. I think that they reverted the change they did, it's not the stats what makes archery strong its ability to ignore armor. Dezilagel first found it in code, I bet they first "nerfed" archery by tweaking that part and then decided to revert it. There isn't much difference between HP loss of my 69 body armor and my light armor (24 BA).

All pierce weapons ignore armor to some point but that part was a bit excessive when it comes to bows and arrows.

Edit: Btw. mighty fine forum posting and lobbying. Worthy of a Great Kunt. Chagan will be proud of you

[Gurnisson]

I have 24 body armor and I don't die from one arrow, sometimes not even from two. I think that they reverted the change they did, it's not the stats what makes archery strong its ability to ignore armor. Dezilagel first found it in code, I bet they first "nerfed" archery by tweaking that part and then decided to revert it. There isn't much difference between HP loss of my 69 body armor and my light armor (24 BA).

All pierce weapons ignore armor to some point but that part was a bit excessive when it comes to bows and arrows.

It's like that from native too. You usually took 3 arrows in leather, and maybe four in the highest armour.
That's why a team losing 3-0 in a 5-round match usually went with a lot of ranged and crossfires to ignore the armour the other team had afforded by winning three rounds.

[_Tak_]

If ranged deal less damage = less damage to shield = Arbalest no longer shoot through shield = shielders has 200% advantage

[duurrr]

It's like that from native too. You usually took 3 arrows in leather, and maybe four in the highest armour.
That's why a team losing 3-0 in a 5-round match usually went with a lot of ranged and crossfires to ignore the armour the other team had afforded by winning three rounds.

not really they just went ranged because its the only way someone with lower skill can kill someone with higher skill

[BlindGuy]

LETS BE REALISTIC: top dmg archers have 3/4 slot weapon, that cost more than any other weapon.

This is Warbow/longbow + bodkins (1 or 2)

I must channel all my WPF into this weapon, or I will endlessly kill my teammates beside/behind me.
I must keep faith when arrow go thru your chest/face/butt and into teammate/horse/wall/tree behind you.
I must keep trying after I see many arrow stuck in air above/below buckler. (How is this not fixed yet?)
I must make accurate and instant predictions as to the movement of teammates and enemy players/horses.
I must plan each move since my dmg output has long cooldown, and large speed debuff.

This weapon does NOT allow me to block.

This weapon does NOT allow me to chamber.

This weapon does NOT allow me infinite DMG output (Sword dont run out of ammo).

This weapon does NOT allow jump attacking.

This weapon does NOT allow use of heavy armour effectively.

This weapon does NOT allow use on horseback.

YOU STILL DONT GET IT: Archery is not OP, if you think so you havent understood the game yet = An archer's main weapon is not his bow, or his 1/0 slot sidearm, just as a 2hander's main weapon is NOT his sword. USE YOUR FUCKING HEAD.