Two Handed Spam

[Cyclopsided]

I really hated spam...
...and then played for a day or so and I learned to block; now all of the spammers, particularly 2h spammer, are free kills.

--Hell I think attack speed [well, mostly block speed] is too slow currently and can't imagine playing in the slow-time molasses every other poster keeps suggesting is their ideal land that reminds them of single player on slowest combat setting.

[v/onMega]

Hahahaha.

A Huscarl side sword 0815 turtle just took 2/3 of my HP with one hit yesterday and damm he was fast while doing it.
Tansitional, Klappvisier, 21 str, 3 IF.

Just like many other 1H weapons...the whole class is just nice to play if you know how to.
DimaUrban toping the scoreboard EVERY god damm time he plays.

Cant believe that there still is shielders whining.
This mod is getting more and more ridicolous ->>

[Blondin]

Adapt and win.
Whine and lose.

1hander are still very effective against 2h, but you have to train and learn how.
Footwork, timing, game mechanics.
Footwork is essential, turn around your foe, sidestep, foward fast, backward when needed...
Timing, strike at the right moment, right after a block, or after your foe miss you, but you got to be fast reactive and concentrate.
Game mechanics, sometimes 2h can strike twice cos you're stun (or stone, that's another problem). When you land a hit, you can strike again, your foe doesn't have the time to strike when he's wounded (call it the double tap...)

Btw, my main is a 1hander but when i play my 2hander, shielders are what i hate the most...i hate that sidesword spammer!

[Vibe]

This is true.  I was just attempting to point out that there are other factors involved other than pure player skill. 
There are a lot of things to be considered when assessing a classes affectivness and overall impact on the balance of a game.  If there is no issue with 2 handed weapons then we have had a fun discussion.  If there is then hopefully nerf/buff/compromise, the problem will be solved.

As to which class is more prolific only game data can tell.

Hell, if we don't discuss this kind of thing then nothing is learnt and there is no evolution towards perfection. 

It seems you realized you were wrong with your rants.

Also if there is discussion about weapon type balance (1h vs 2h for example) it is obvious we're keeping in mind the other factors are similar (level, gear, etc) or this wouldn't be just a thread about weapon type balance, but a game balance thread (omg I'm a peasant and can't kill a tincan with my scytche, NERF that 2h he is using!).

Like I said before, in the end skill is what matters (even if you're a bit undergeared) so... I suggest you train your 1h skill more. I know I don't stand a bloody chance against a half decent shielder if he starts hugging me, 1h animations are wicked deadly once they're hugging you.

[Franklin]

It seems you realized you were wrong with your rants.

I wasnt aware I was ranting. My writing style must need a tweak.    I also wasn't aware of stating that one side was right and the other wrong, only that we didn't have the info to say anything for definate.

At the end of the day only time will tell with this.  It does make for a good chat tho 

[Konrax]

Derp, my name is Konrax and I'm a shielder using the most overpowered 1 handed weapon and I still want weapons nerfed because I suck at the game.

Have you never heard of the W key? Use it.

I never even said what my build is or what weapons I use.

ALT+F4 Your life.

[joshko]

Dexx supports 2h nerf

[Patricia]

I never even said what my build is or what weapons I use.

ALT+F4 Your life.

So? I still see you play ingame.

[Dexxtaa]

I feel like 30% of this thread is Konrax telling us about his weapon collection and how proficient he is in Hapkido (and why we should learn it). Another 10% is people either trolling Konrax, or simply telling him what an idiot they think he is.

I was looking forward to reading 10 pages about complaints about 2 handed spam and how unfounded those claims are. Let's get back on topic! So far (besides the silliness and macho posturing and insults) I like what's being said here.

I agree while most one-handed fighters are almost useless without their shields (try bringing and axe to battle, breaking a shield, and watching the guy freak. out.). However, I've met a fair few capable one-handed fighters, who are perfectly competent without a shield (albeit they still use picks and hammers, from what I've seen), but props to the fighters who know how to fight without a shield, and aren't reliant on it.

Also, is everyone a pure build?  I'm reading a lot of posts and from what I can tell, most people are pure-building their characters.

Dexx supports 2h nerf

Wait, whaaaat ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8AL2ZRPpSI

[Torp]

i think most people are melee/ranged

[John]

I hate how when I fight most two handers, they don't wait for me to swing back before starting another swing.  If they weren't such jerks, they'd let me counter attack at my own pace instead of just winning. 

[Phyrex]

The instant anyone I face hesitate or show any form of weakness I'll spam them, and I enjoy every moment of it.

[Geranigus]

The only thing I dislike about 2handers is the quantity.
More and more people go for 2handswords. 
I would love more variation.

[Punisher]

The only thing I dislike about 2handers is the quantity.
More and more people go for 2handswords. 
I would love more variation.

Hmm as a 2hander I feel the other way around, more and more people go for 1h+shield, there has definetly been a large increase in their numbers after the patch.

[Torp]

Hmm as a 2hander I feel the other way around, more and more people go for 1h+shield, there has definetly been a large increase in their numbers after the patch.

that and the throwers.

the worst are the 1h shield+thrower hybrids