Polls on Wooki, Lilith/Nuffen AND [ptx] - DISCUSSION

[AngryScotsman]

It looked very much like you got kicked for polling against him, which'd make sense.
He didn't draw out the round. It was easily accessible. He was alone against 5. It was a low building. Your poll was not justified.

I believe that was the reason you were kicked. I might be wrong on that one ofcourse, but I do think, that if that was the reason, it would be legit.

It's worth pointing out it doesn't actually matter who says what since there is a complete lack of guidance for admins so that any "reason" is enough even if it isn't a "good" reason.

And, like I said, that's not why I am here: I have never been kicked for polling the last man on roof tops. How do I know this? Because I only poll time asters when no admins are on: the admins usually kick the same people I would poll for wasting time. And this is all off topic and irrelevant anyway.

[Ronrinesu]

It's worth pointing out it doesn't actually matter who says what since there is a complete lack of guidance for admins so that any "reason" is enough even if it isn't a "good" reason.

And, like I said, that's not why I am here: I have never been kicked for polling the last man on roof tops. How do I know this? Because I only poll time asters when no admins are on: the admins usually kick the same people I would poll for wasting time. And this is all off topic and irrelevant anyway.

In that case you are not that person, as that person kicked a last person, -while- and admin was on.
I am sorry to have mistaken you. My posts declaring your post illegit is declared illegit and I hold nothing against it.

[Vance]

In that case you are not that person, as that person kicked a last person, -while- and admin was on.
I am sorry to have mistaken you. My posts declaring your post illegit is declared illegit and I hold nothing against it.

I think you're giving him too much credit, I doubt he's capable of detecting when an admin is on. Plus I've seen him poll the last guy when no timewasting is going on. Make your own mind up though, of course ;)

And, like I said, that's not why I am here: I have never been kicked for polling the last man on roof tops. How do I know this? Because I only poll time asters when no admins are on: the admins usually kick the same people I would poll for wasting time. And this is all off topic and irrelevant anyway.

lol that's like saying that you know because you know, pretty silly really.

[Ronrinesu]

I think you're giving him too much credit, I doubt he's capable of detecting when an admin is on. Plus I've seen him poll the last guy when no timewasting is going on. Make your own mind up though, of course ;)

I can only say things. On what I see myself. I believe what I see with my own eyes. I wish not to slander a person who is wrongfully judged.

I will chose to believe that he isn't that person untill I can be sure that he is. I do not have any firm proof, afterall.
Thank you, in any case.

[AngryScotsman]

I think you're giving him too much credit, I doubt he's capable of detecting when an admin is on. Plus I've seen him poll the last guy when no timewasting is going on. Make your own mind up though, of course ;)

lol that's like saying that you know because you know, pretty silly really.

No, its me pointing out HOW I remember it. And I know an admin isn't on because if he were I'd be kicked for polling. Logic is wonderful isn't it?

And you're going off topic.

[Vance]

No, its me pointing out HOW I remember it. And I know an admin isn't on because if he were I'd be kicked for polling. Logic is wonderful isn't it?

And you're going off topic.

No it's just you pretending to authority you don't have. If you believe your silly comments about Lilith's admining are offtopic then you're wrong about that too. Look at the title of the thread.

[AngryScotsman]

At which point did I say my comments about his admining are off topic? Do enlighten me.

[Vance]

You don't need enlightenment, just some common sense ;)

[AngryScotsman]

You don't need enlightenment, just some common sense ;)

I read right through your bullshit and thats the comeback you have? Noted.

[nuffen]

Ok.
This is kinda sad, I think. AngryScotsman, youve already admitted that the tk you got kicked for was intentional.
If anyone wanna get this confirmed, look at his ownpost here:
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2493.0.html
"I admit intention on the second matter, though it was done as a joke at the end of the round. The team mate did not die."
So then thats out of the discussion.

Then to the poll kick that Ronrinesu is pointing out, I remember that insident. A guy was on a roof, that was VERY easy to access, on a huge front. It gave him the back free, but that was all. Angryscotsman then abused his poll-power to try to cheat his way to easy victory by poll kicking the person. In this action AngryScotsman dis an abuse that is worse than anything Ive ever done.

Hes also stated that the rules doesnt apply to him. If he wanna tk people as a joke, he is free to do that. He disregard the rules, and should not be allowed to play the game.

This is why he hates me, and he dont deserve any more answers. Please ignore him.

[AngryScotsman]

Ok.
This is kinda sad, I think. AngryScotsman, youve already admitted that the tk you got kicked for was intentional.
If anyone wanna get this confirmed, look at his own post here:
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2493.0.html
So then thats out of the discussion.

Then to the poll kick that Ronrinesu is pointing out, I remember that insident. A guy was on a roof, that was VERY easy to access, on a huge front. It gave him the back free, but that was all. Angryscotsman then abused his poll-power to try to cheat his way to easy victory by poll kicking the person. In this action AngryScotsman dis an abuse that is worse than anything Ive ever done.

Hes also stated that the rules doesnt apply to him. If he wanna tk people as a joke, he is free to do that. He disregard the rules, and should not be allowed to play the game.

This is why he hates me, and he dont deserve any more answers. Please ignore him.

And this is why you shouldn't be an admin Lilith. In that same link you provide as evidence it clearly states in my post "I refuse to admit intention..." with reasons following.

You have no idea what the hell evidence is.

EDIT: And just before you spew out more bullshit, I will clearly state here why I have a problem with you.

I TKed unintentionally or intentionally. I know it was unintentional. The burden of proof is on you to show that it was intentional. You have no evidence of this at all. Your master defence for your lack of reasoning is that "admins don't need evidence" among other autocratic bullshit.

You are irrational: you are unfit to be an admin.

[Jarlek]

I admit intention on the second matter, though it was done as a joke at the end of the round. The team mate did not die. This is apparently against server rules (which may I point out were only published on this forum after I challenged this decision, someone had to copy them over from the Taleworlds forum). If that is the retrospective case, then I apologise.

I just read that. Seems like you did an intentional attack on a teammate. Sounds like good evidence to me

[AngryScotsman]

I just read that. Seems like you did an intentional attack on a teammate. Sounds like good evidence to me

Yes, on the SECOND matter (stabbing Ganon for a laugh). I openly admit I was wrong there. However, I had tked right at the end of the round prior to this. That WAS accidental, and this appalling excuse of an admin somehow linked the two incidents. He didn't even get his facts right, accusing me of TWO TKs when there was in actuality only ONE.

And, to top it all off, he has no evidence: no logs, no screenshots, no videos, nothing. His defence is "I am an admin."

[Karmazyn]

I would suggest that eu admins play a bit on NA siege server and watch how Nindurr_ATS moderate.

[Alex_C]

I would suggest that eu admins play a bit on NA siege server and watch how Nindurr_ATS moderate.

Thanks for the input.