Petition to revert the ranged nerf

[Thanatos]

Considering there is more of everything else than archers, the nerf getting reverted decision wins.

[Meow]

Before the big patch usually this it how it went
Noob = 1 arrow
Light armor = 2 arrows
Medium armor = 3-4 arrows
Heavy Armor = 5-7 arrows
That seemed pretty fair to me at the time, now it feels more like this

Noob = 2 arrows
Light armor = 3-4 arrows
Medium armor = 5-6 arrows
Heavy armor = 8-10 arrows

Just seems a bit excessive to me.

That is mainly a overall problem, not just archery.
I sometimes take 4-5 swings from a below 8 PS 2h build and those guys have to be in my swing range to deal that damage.

I see how it might seem excessive to hit people more than 5 times but you can do that at range.
You have to keep gameplay in mind.

As i said right now rus bow needs a slight buff, longbow needs a big buff.
Both top tier bows.
Lower tier bows either need a speed, accuracy or damage nerf.

Slow xbows need a buff, throwing needs a buff.

Everything else will be adjusted as needed.
Not spoiling that

[Thanatos]

Xbows need more damage than speed. I'd rather that the xbows become stronger.

Historically xbows weren't that fast at reloading as you had to wind some of them up.

Also the STR levels to use xbows should be lowered. The regular xbow should be level 7 str to use and only take up one slot and the light xbow should be 5 str.

[Overdriven]

As i said right now rus bow needs a slight buff

Wait Rus bow needs a buff? I swear that's the most used bow...at least amoung the good archers I've specced recently.

Longbow does need some love. But I see no reason to nerf the other bows.

Also...see these votes:

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,24339.15.html

[SirProto]

I just want my poor wardarts back to how they were.    Throwing is far too innacurate to consistenly get headshots and with the limited ammo you get using up 5-6 shots for one kill takes most of your firepower out of the battle with only a small effect.

[Tristan]

Add extra on to that for HA. 9 arrows to kill a guy in heraldic mail with tabard (40 body armour) with MW hornbow and barbs 

And 2 body shots with a longbow on my foot archer to kill a naked guy.

You sire have too many archers

@balancing:
Causality is a very funny thing. I too have specced more successful archers with rus bow, but I strongly suspect that it is their ability more than the bow that is the reason for this. Long bow no doubt need some love, while the 1 slot bows simply carry too many advantages.

Somehow I am not all that fond of the headshot balance. I get the point where you want to increase skill. It seems actually to reward some skilled player, but it also increases a sense of randomness. Archers have become a Hell Blaster Volley Gun, where the biggest chance is they do nada, but chance is they win the game. Sorta like rolling a die, on a 6 you win, every thing else, you lose.

I don't know how, but it would be wonderful to introduce more skill into archery and less randomness. Accuracy is again a randomness factor.
Where is the Archery minigame? Sort-a-like a certain tapping of codes in order to get optimal accuracy or something similar

[Taser]

SirProto, your gif is making me laugh. I love it.

[Meow]

SirProto, your gif is making me laugh. I love it.

This!

[Tanken]

Having been archer for the last 8 generations or so, using either MW Horn bow or MW Rus Bow with MW Bodkins, I can tell you straight forward, this FUCKED archers.

I played through the newest patch, and my arrows were practically tickling opponents that otherwise used to run away from me. Throw in the idea that the bows are fairly inaccurate at longer than 25m and that they now do less damage? Holy christ almighty, I sold my MW Archery Gear because I know this shit will never get fixed, something else will get nerfed and then it will be that the complaint is on it instead of archery and archery will be swept under the rug.

While we're at it, why don't they just release NERF-tipped arrows, that's practically the effect that they have now. 8 MW Bodkins all in prime locations such as torso or neck and I'm still being charged at? Not to mention if they have a shield I now have to deal with the shield + the 8 or so body shots? Wtf is this sorcery.

Tanken

P.S. thanks for fucking up archery. You took away ladders, that's fine, I would probably bitch less if the dramatic decrease to body shots wasn't so severe. 10% less to body shots and 20% increase to head shots seems more accurate to what SHOULD have happened. But what do I know right? Obviously you guys have it all figured out.

Yeah I said it, You Fucked Archery.

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[Meow]

The pic is not working =(

Also agreed but those % will be adjusted.

[LastKaze]

Isn't that bad using an arbalest, it's just xbowman has been nerfed to a point where it is just a support class, so 1 shot could maybe take off half and your teammates will finish him off, you'd be pretty lucky to get a second shot at the guy because the reload speed is sorta slow.

[Aseldo]

Lower tier bows either need a speed, accuracy or damage nerf.

Seeing as they barely damage anybody right now anyway, they'll be even more useless if this is implemented

Accuracy would be the only understandable nerf.

[Old Autobus]

No 73 (57%)

learn to aim.

[bonekuukkeli]

Petition is made with only yes and no options. (most likely intentionally to get wanted situation). Most of people here have told that they don't want full revert (ladders and everything back), but they want to increase damage or make it less random headshotting idiocy. Also, they want to buff xbow and throwing.... but still answered "yes" because they like ladder change for example.

[Fartface]

All the bad, medium archers are like pff fuck this nerf.
But the better archers are like nice my hs insta kill now.
This is what i hear most of the time.