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Should the ranged nerf be reverted?

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185 (53.3%)
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Offline Joker86

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Petition to revert the ranged nerf
« on: January 24, 2012, 10:43:24 pm »
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The question is simple: do you, or do you not enjoy playing the game?

There can be many reasons for this, you could be archer and hating the last nerf, you could be infantry and love the reduced ranged damage you take, you could be cavalry and enjoy the increased life span of your horse, or you could be infantry that enjoys the reduced damage from arrows but hates the increased number of cavalry on the servers.

Just vote your general opinion here. Let's keep this as simple as possible.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2012, 09:02:22 am by Kalam »
Joker makes a very good point.
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Re: Survey: are you content with the current state of the game?
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2012, 10:44:20 pm »
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Yes but archers need a buff (or a de-nerf)

xbow>bow

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Re: Survey: are you content with the current state of the game?
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2012, 10:44:41 pm »
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Not really, no. The whole blanket ranged nerf was definitely a topping point, but i've been displeased with the direction this game in general has been going for about a month now.
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Re: Survey: are you content with the current state of the game?
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2012, 10:45:59 pm »
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Archers need a buff yay, that patch made everything worse.

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Re: Survey: are you content with the current state of the game?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2012, 10:47:12 pm »
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I always enjoy the game, it just depends on whether I use my main or my alts.

But to make things simple I put no, because with my main it sucks.

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Re: Survey: are you content with the current state of the game?
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2012, 10:48:57 pm »
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Overall I'm content with the game play and "balance" of the game.  I really dislike a lot of the recent nerfs (especially to ranged body shots).  I think about 3 months ago, right before the pikes/long spears going from 2 to 3 slots, the game play was great and very balanced.

Too many nerfs are my issue.  As of before the most recent archer nerf,hat even with all the other nerfs considered, the game was still very balanced, and very fun to play.  Now that you've nerfed archers, they are basically pointless.  At 12 strength, 2 iron flesh and with a mail shirt on, I was able to take an arrow while riding on a horse towards someone, and have it only take away about 1/6 or 1/7 of my hp.  That's ridiculous.
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Re: Petition to revert the patch
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2012, 10:51:08 pm »
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Removing ladders was ok, all other... not needed and way too extreme when it affects xbows and throwing as well.

And I dislike idea of headshotting.

Nerf was too hard, and it's already seen in increasing number of cavs. All but roofcamping was quite nicely balanced before.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2012, 10:53:48 pm by bonekuukkeli »

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Re: Petition to revert the patch
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2012, 10:54:47 pm »
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I think (not know) that archers can still do good. And I know that throwers can still be awesome (takes more than a 33% or so damage nerf to stop me from making people pissed off in EU_3!!!). I am pretty sure xbows were nerfed beyond usefullness.
And I've decided to post my biased thrower opinion: Un-nerf throwing (At the very least put it down a bit), slightly un-nerf bows (still a bit nerf though), un-nerf Xbows (atleast a bit), un-nerf HA's (completely, k? No discussing it, they need the un-nerfing, it's a fact).
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: Petition to revert the patch
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2012, 10:57:50 pm »
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At first i thought archers got overnerfed. Now i think they are actually at a pretty good spot.

Xbows and Throwing need a buff atm. I wouldn't touch archery ,personally ( flame on).

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Re: Petition to revert the patch
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2012, 10:58:05 pm »
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I'm medium infantry without a shield, agi build and I sometimes take 4-5 shots from an archer before I die...and it usually from 2 archers, if its one, I can usually chase them down and kill them.  They're way underpowered AND they're inaccurate (compared to Native [but Native goes overboard on ranged]) So please buff them back up a little.

Archers: Slight dmg OR accuracy buff
XBow: Dmg buff
Throwers: Revert them back.

ps:I have 0 IF.
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Re: Petition to revert the patch
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2012, 10:59:34 pm »
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Content...? Yeah.

But throwing and xbows do need something, and cav must be kept in check.

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Re: Petition to revert the ranged nerf
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2012, 11:06:47 pm »
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I just edited the poll, to be more percise to what I am thinking of. Perhaps the question was kept too general, now it's really concrete. I hope I didn't falsificate the result by this  :?
Joker makes a very good point.
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Re: Petition to revert the ranged nerf
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2012, 11:09:32 pm »
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Xbows need a buff soon
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Re: Petition to revert the patch
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2012, 11:11:22 pm »
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I can not promise anything but i can give you some basic stuff that is in the talks right now (hopefully without being removed for leaking stuff).

Anti cav spikes - after rageball is pretty much finished - not sure on how it will work yet but it will be some kind of area denial for cav which protects inf and might be able to block narrow passages.
Making other lances than the heavy lance useful for cav.
Improving the slow ranged weapons and mainly tweaking the last nerf so the ranged weapons are in line again, they will not be where they were before the nerf though.

Is what i got so far.
As i do not do balancing this is prone to changes but might or might not happen.

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Re: Petition to revert the ranged nerf
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2012, 11:12:13 pm »
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I think best solution would be not to revert the nerf, but to make it less heavy. Means instead of 67% something like maybe 80% or whatever, can be tested before final decision.


But what is more important in my opinion is a change about the new bow/quiver textures. At least a change that can be downloaded if wanted :/