Idea to lower the problems of roofcamping

[Ujin]

Remove ladders.

Really. Stop inventing the bicycle, just remove the goddamn ladders.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Remove ladders.

[Joker86]

Again. This won't happen. chadz doesn't want it. Come up with anything else, but forget the removal of ladders.

[Vibe]

Wow talk about overcomplicating. Perhaps we could just remove ladders eh.

PS: we don't care what chadz wants :3

[Grumpy_Nic]

Random Plains only, remove buildings

[Christo]

Really. Stop inventing the bicycle, just remove the goddamn ladders.

This made my day.
 

[AreTreble]

Why not just bring your own ladder to get up to the roofs? If your ladder is long enough you can usually be at the top of the ladder before anyone has a chance to attack it, as long as you start walking up it as it is deploying.

It would be cool if there was a new item like reinforced metal ladders implemented that can only be destroyed from the ground. I imagine you could just reskin the ladder and make it only destructible at the bottom.


Another, idea more consistent with history and immersion is having stand-alone ladders (german origins, I think) that dont have to be propped on the side of buildings.
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If properly placed, archers won't be able to destroy these as they would be out of reach.

All you have to do to implement this is make the ladders automatically stop at a predetermined height. And a reskin. Constructive criticism welcome.

[Joker86]

Wouldn't this lead to the kind of "sniper tower" constructions like in older versions of cRPG?

Just place two ladders next to each others, not totally perfect on a line but looking a bit towards each other, so that they will connect somewhere in the air. As soon as they do they will stop and you can climb up. Especially handy on plain maps, protecting you from cavalry for a long time, and also from enemy fire while being allowed to shoot from an elevated position yourself.

Thank god this is not possible any more.

[Adalwulf]

As far as I have understood the rumors around here, chadz explicitly insists on keeping ladders as they are. I don't know if he would agree to make them undestructible for the own team or something like that, but I do know...

... ladders never will be removed from battle

and

... for sure the developers won't change every map with a roof on it to have fixed ladders or something even more complicated like spawning or moving/"growing" ladders.

can't be done. Cuz then people can aldder block iwth indestructable ladders of bundle of sticksry.

[obitus]

spawn a ladder on the ground at both team's spawns at like 5 minutes in for someone to be able to pick up if needed