Question regarding couch

[Ujin]

This thread is meaningless.

[Riddaren]

If you don't have eyes in the back it's your own fault if you die to a couched lance. In fact it is totally useless versus decent players.

Besides non couched lances are already manually blockable just to make it more balanced.
If it was up to me I would atleast make people get knocked down if they manually bocked a non couched lance, given the horse runs at high speed.

If something should be fixed when it comes to horses it is to make them stay horses even after their death instead of making them illusions...
I mean, how can you not get a scratch from a horse that was alive 1cm before it hit your face at 50km/h? This game is so damn unrealistic...

;)

[Garris]

Couched damage was king of the battlefield in the middle ages.   It deserves its place in CRPG. 

It's very situational, high risk, and expensive to bring to bear.

Truly a useless poll.


cry some more

[Ganon]

It's funny how all the justifications for couched damage can be applied to the soon to be nerfed barmace. I said it's only obvious that the barmace is being nerfed, becuase with a particular build it gave an unfair advantage, but the same applies to some (not all) couched damage weapons.

[Tears of Destiny]

It's funny how all the justifications for couched damage can be applied to the soon to be nerfed barmace. I said it's only obvious that the barmace is being nerfed, becuase with a particular build it gave an unfair advantage, but the same applies to some (not all) couched damage weapons.

Last I checked the Bar mace has more then one direction of attack, and can dodge and weave in a melee. The Couched lance forces you to take a very predictable line of attack and have anyone with a moderate amount of skill (Even I have done this, and that is saying something) jump up to the side and slice the rider in two, avoiding the predictable couch.

[bruce]

It's funny how all the justifications for couched damage can be applied to the soon to be nerfed barmace.

It's funny how it's untrue, but whatever. It's not like couching serves any purpose except killing afkers when you're still a low str guy so eh, might as well remove the thing ;)

The barmace is still hilariously broken.

In fact, let's talk about the lol OP and what he suggests:
"The point of the thread is that cav don't need couching as using a heavy lance is more then enough apart of pikes which giving great lance thrust would be a solution."

Great lance thrust would be incredibly, amusingly and hilariously overpowered. The great lance is basically never used because it can couch instead of thrust. It would make cavalry absurdly overpowered if it could thrust.

[Krakatit]

Guys this thread is about couching and it is really old...
There is another thread about barmace!

[Noble Crassius]

I said yes because couching is an essential part of the game and shouldn't be taken away. Taking away couch would be like taking away CT from all the maces. So if CT completely disappears then sure be done with couch as well idc I don't cough except for afk people, thrusting is a lot easier and usually is a 1 hit itself.

[Vexus]

Apart that great lance has 55 speed?

But mine was just a question not a solution or what your inventing read the title I wanted to know the reasons and none was justified why cav need an unblockable 1 hit attack /end thread

Please stop reviving the thread as people think I am reviving it and keep on thinking I am suggesting but mine was a curiosity what people think and got the answers.

[UrLukur]

Couched damage was king of the battlefield in the middle ages.   It deserves its place in CRPG. 

It's very situational, high risk, and expensive to bring to bear.

Truly a useless poll.


cry some more

It's not situational and risky, you can perform this move against any 1h/2h user with little chance to stop it. Yes, you have to learn to execute it, but after you have some practice with it, it's ezmode.

[Seawied]

It's not situational and risky, you can perform this move against any 1h/2h user with little chance to stop it. Yes, you have to learn to execute it, but after you have some practice with it, it's ezmode.

I disagree. A player entering couch mode is quite exposed to arrows, despite the new "shield cover" animation. Even if a player throws a rock and hits the shield doing 0 damage, the animation will knock him out of couch-mode.

Its a move best performed against an unaware opponent, because they will have no time to use the variety of tactics to counter the couch.

[Tears of Destiny]

Apart that great lance has 55 speed?

But mine was just a question not a solution or what your inventing read the title I wanted to know the reasons and none was justified why cav need an unblockable 1 hit attack /end thread

Please stop reviving the thread as people think I am reviving it and keep on thinking I am suggesting but mine was a curiosity what people think and got the answers.

I love how people ignore you. 

[Nemeth]

But mine was just a question not a solution or what your inventing read the title I wanted to know the reasons and none was justified why cav need an unblockable 1 hit attack /end thread

Because it was already in the game and there is no reason to remove it.

[UrLukur]

I disagree. A player entering couch mode is quite exposed to arrows, despite the new "shield cover" animation. Even if a player throws a rock and hits the shield doing 0 damage, the animation will knock him out of couch-mode.

Its a move best performed against an unaware opponent, because they will have no time to use the variety of tactics to counter the couch.

Aren't those ranged weapons ? Variety of tactics ? Like equipping invisible pike/light lance, longest 2h weapons can stab the horse and kill it in one shot (? with old animations they had the chance, i dunno if it's possible with new) - if they fail to kill they are dead.

I know that ranged can counter couch, thats why i said 1h/2h are dead/shieldless.

[Magikarp]

I rarely couch on my cavalry character, it is a high risk move usually getting me killed if I use it frequently.
Only time I couch is on a flat area and when some noob is not paying attention.

And yes, if you don't know how to avoid a couch, than you suck.