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Do cavalry really need to be able to 1 hit (Couch)?

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Offline GaenaralHONK

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Re: Question regarding couch
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2011, 06:00:45 pm »
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Simply a thrust can be blocked a couch no.

that's wrong.

you can damn easily chamber block a couched lance with a spear thrust or 2h sword thrust

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Re: Question regarding couch
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2011, 06:04:52 pm »
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Are you sure a couch can be chambered? Since it has no attack animation and all.
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Re: Question regarding couch
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2011, 06:05:13 pm »
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Lilith, if you dont want to be horse crossbowman like me, i can give you build for cavalry with 10 riding, though you wont be too good on ground (except for damn fast swings)

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 9
Agility: 30
Hit points: 44
Converted: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 3
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 10
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 10
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 190
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

Or you can place wpfs wherever you want.


Or get this if you want to be able to use heavy lance:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 10
Agility: 30
Hit points: 45
Converted: 10
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 3
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 10
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 8
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 173
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1
« Last Edit: February 17, 2011, 06:08:01 pm by Dravic »

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Re: Question regarding couch
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2011, 06:15:03 pm »
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I have a cav and yes I did try couch yet it's not my fav way of killing as it leaves the other player almost no chance of survival.
Killing people as cav is easy very easy till your horse is alive.
well, imo couching only is pretty hard way 2 keep horse alive & make some kills.  I totally disagree that couch leaves no chance of survival (not need 2 waste shield - jump 2 right using left swing perfectly kill rider & if this done in last second rider dont have time 2 move couching lance 2 left side) & as was said even 0 athl can dodge couch if stay alarmed...

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Re: Question regarding couch
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2011, 06:24:12 pm »
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that's wrong.

you can damn easily chamber block a couched lance with a spear thrust or 2h sword thrust

I'm pretty sure this is a myth. Never ever seen it happen. If you can do it I'd really like to show me how on the duel server.

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Re: Question regarding couch
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2011, 06:32:31 pm »
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I'm pretty sure this is a myth. Never ever seen it happen. If you can do it I'd really like to show me how on the duel server.

I've tried it on battle and failed so far, so I'm pretty sure it's a myth too... how can you chamber something without an attack animation?
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Re: Question regarding couch
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2011, 06:37:48 am »
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couching never has really bothered me. Its easily dodged and interrupting the rider isn't difficult either.

It only becomes a problem with multiple cavalry coming at you on a wide open field map. This situation is so rare, and mostly speaks to bad level design than couch lancing.



As to thrust blocking a couch lance: this is actually true! I've only seen it done randomly by a bot in single-player. But because of online latency/limits of human reflexes, we can pretty much toss it out as a viable defense against couch lancing.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2011, 06:40:07 am by Seawied »
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Re: Question regarding couch
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2011, 06:54:12 am »
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I say yes, leave it, as it currently is an extremely risky option.

Every time I have seen a rider couch against aware enemies, it ends up with one or more arrows/bolts in the rider's chest or the head of the horse due to the straight line the rider is forced to take. You can break off and zig and zag a bit if you thrust on an angle with the lance, but with couching you are making more of a direct path towards your target.

Far too often it forces the rider too close to the side-stepping groundpounder who is now close enough to stick you with his fist if he even needs to.
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Re: Question regarding couch
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2011, 07:06:08 am »
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I've had people survive my couches plenty of times. Couching is only really viable against people who are unaware or complete noobs.

Agree with madcat

Also, i play a cav. Im on a courser, and I got 7 riding, and Im the fastest cav Ive met this far, so I dont think a lot of cav are courser with 7 riding. :)

My last build I had 8 riding on a champion courser, you have nothing on me sis.
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Re: Question regarding couch
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2011, 07:23:16 am »
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Couching is risky, but is very helpful against unaware opponents (which it should be). Keep it. Imho, case should've never been opened.

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Re: Question regarding couch
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2011, 07:42:51 am »
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Imho, case should've never been opened.

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Re: Question regarding couch
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2011, 06:34:44 pm »
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why to nerf something that is not everpowered at all and adds to game variety, lol...
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Re: Question regarding couch
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2011, 06:46:23 pm »
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Casimir is talking about that you want to MAKE couching NOT 1 hitting. And he is pointing at what superuberhumans are we going to kill? Irl noone can survive couched lance, usually even just thrust with lance, but Warband is balanced enough to not 1hit everyone with any type of hit from lance at full horse speed :)

IRL people survived couched lance using decent armor. And survived couched with insane in game speed bonus (head on). Really, it wasn't nuke.

I would like better couched but without one hit killing people in armor, i would like armor to give something against high damage attacks, it was meant to protect for hell sake.
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Re: Question regarding couch
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2011, 08:26:35 am »
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Couching can be chambered, ive done it several times. Also its easy to dodge and you might live even if it hits you.

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Re: Question regarding couch
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2011, 08:50:15 am »
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Couching can be chambered, ive done it several times. Also its easy to dodge and you might live even if it hits you.

It's easier to figure it out on a deathmatch on native.

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