[POLL] About EU_1 Battle.Why its no fun anymore ? Or is it fun ?

[Jambi]

I get that you feel threatened because so far ranged was such an easy and convenient way to play but it seems that there's some deep fallacy in the archers perspective if you see nothing wrong with game mechanics that makes it extremely difficult to fight against you unless they heavily outnumber you and cooperate just to kill you, one guy.

Lewl, i would love to see you try play an archer like i do, good luck!

[Jambi]

If the devs wanted to fix the problem with the current ranged spam they should imho.

A. Increase the weight of the bows so they cant kite around all day an remove ladders archer´s can keep their High dmg pierce bodkins arrows but they will be forced to engage their counter classes such as shielder´s an cav.

B. Archer´s lose their bodkin arrows with pierce and only the longbow have the pierce dmg like before the archer buff but they can still kite all day an camp roofs but they will be forced to aim for weak spots to deal the same dmg as before.

I prefer A. Tbh since i don't mind the dmg archers deal but that you cant catch em or force em down for the roofs...

Its pretty plain an simple right now the only good counter to range is other ranged thus we have the current sick amount of ranged players...

If they devs really want´s more teamplay into cRPG why is it only the inf who have to play that way an not archers??

PS: im a shielder so dont give me the bring a shield argument 

Funny Tzar.

Awesome to see that most people whining about ranged are Strenght stacking characters. 1-2 hit people in melee and abuse polestagger.
But ontop of that they also want to faster then everyone else.

I suggest you play DC  Universe Tzar, you can play as a super hero there. 

[Jambi]

you see, the points is not the good archers... the no-skilled archers just kite you forever since they never gave a shot to learn some basic melee stuff.

Well, you've seen me hopefully. Its perfectly viable to use you bow even in melee, and especially to make shielders go wtf.. when you do the Jambi sidestep

[Gurnisson]

Funny Tzar.

Awesome to see that most people whining about ranged are Strenght stacking characters. 1-2 hit people in melee and abuse polestagger.

He's 1H shield, so he ain't busing polestagger anymore.

Also, I've been 30/9, 27/12 and now 21/18. The two first ones were frustrating because winning 1 vs. 4 and other type of gankings was next to impossible because you were basically a snail. The last one, the one I'm using now is frustrating because an archer with rus bow takes over 50 % of my health with one arrow. I doubt it's the strength stackers that whines because archers were tolerable for me when I used strength builds.

[Jambi]

He's 1H shield, so he ain't busing polestagger anymore.

Also, I've been 30/9, 27/12 and now 21/18. The two first ones were frustrating because winning 1 vs. 4 and other type of gankings was next to impossible because you were basically a snail. The last one, the one I'm using now is frustrating because an archer with rus bow takes over 50 % of my health with one arrow. I doubt it's the strength stackers that whines because archers were tolerable for me when I used strength builds.

Meh people like 22nd_Phase still gets me alot. He has around 9 athletics, kills every kind of build he sees.. and survives thru most of the mid-rounds.
I tihnk most people just need more teamplay, L2P, show shield or gtfo

Hint: there's 0 req shields now... that you can use to get from Cover point A to Cover point B! wewewt!

[Corrado_Decimo]

blablabla i'm hero blabla try to play like me blablabla

blablabla you trying to be a hero while I AM blablabla

you don't know who i am! you never saw me! i'll do the JAMBI SIDESTEP plus roundhouse AOE arrows volley of the dragon fire!

blah my build is blah blah technically STR nails bla bla but i'm jambi so blah blah

happens you have a brother playing cRPG? maybe called Olwen or LOLwen?

[Gurnisson]

Meh people like 22nd_Phase still gets me alot. He has around 9 athletics, kills every kind of build he sees.. and survives thru most of the mid-rounds.
I tihnk most people just need more teamplay, L2P, show shield or gtfo

Hint: there's 0 req shields now... that you can use to get from Cover point A to Cover point B! wewewt!

As a jack of all trades piker (long awlpike) I do expect to get raped by archers, because I can't carry a shield, and as long as I die to them while they're reachable, I find it fair. When the my old friends are hiding on a roof, it leaves me frustrated, and I would say rightly so. I know you're not that kind of archer, you're just a skilled archer supporting your team on the ground like archers should do, and I won't complain if such archers kill me

happens you have a brother playing cRPG? maybe called Olwen or LOLwen?

What's your point, silly?

[Tzar]

Funny Tzar.

Awesome to see that most people whining about ranged are Strenght stacking characters. 1-2 hit people in melee and abuse polestagger.
But ontop of that they also want to faster then everyone else.

I suggest you play DC  Universe Tzar, you can play as a super hero there. 

Since when did 15/24 make you a str whore? 

Also when i was polearm last gen i also had 15/24

[Corrado_Decimo]

What's your point, silly?

discovering great egos is fun.
trolling wannabe heroes is fun.
reading biased balance points by a one-man-army wannabes is fun.
olwen in the past, jambi today, me tomorrow?

no offense meant. boring saturday night, baby is sleeping, wife is watching supernatural episode 10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QBmTHwR3hg

[Tzar]

discovering great egos is fun.
trolling wannabe heroes is fun.
reading biased balance points by a one-man-army wannabes is fun.
olwen in the past, jambi today, me tomorrow?

no offense meant. boring saturday night, baby is sleeping, wife is watching supernatural episode 10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QBmTHwR3hg

You should come on our Ts for epic ego rage

[bonekuukkeli]

Yesterday it was quite weird to play when there was nice villagemaps going in rotation (no desert camping maps). Melee actually did quite well there and it surely was fun again. I also noticed quite a few good old 2h players taking shield or throwing in their builds. Maybe its all about map rotation and players actually picking their builds to suit current situation.

[Tristan]

Yes, it was nice to see a whole group of mercs online.

Yesterday I visited the American siege server and the whole reddit team played together.

This just reminds me what keeps me at warband. Teamplay.

I don't believe the right way to go about archery is to limit classses. Sorta opposite of what cRPG stands for aye?

But it might be needed to go back to pre-all_bows_have_pierce days.

[Corrado_Decimo]

Yes, it was nice to see a whole group of mercs online.

Yesterday I visited the American siege server and the whole reddit team played together.

well is not that hard when all the players speak their native language.
in EU we have a consistent number of people that can't read or write english so..

often i find me and few others trying to doing teamwork by typing spotted enemies, weak spots, ninja assaults. the remaining 70% of the team just climb ladders with gates open, kick teammates from ladders, destroy team ladders, random swing in the middle of his team, camp on a far tower with a toy bow or hide somewhere or wear barely legal gear to not get a leech kick poll.

sometimes instead (usually before or after a big strat battle), clans join the siege and you really see epic flag battles, a clan commando ladderstorming a weak spot, a clan tightly defending a good narrow flag access.

[BlindGuy]

discovering great egos is fun.
trolling wannabe heroes is fun.
reading biased balance points by a one-man-army wannabes is fun.

save internets billings and use mirror.

[Corrado_Decimo]

save internets billings and use mirror.

this said by a blind guy sounds so funny...